And about time, too!

I firmly believe it should be " no mask no entry. No exemptions". What are all the nightclub bouncers doing? Why don't supermarkets employ them at the door. Two stories I have put on here before. My DD is a frontline NHS worker. Her friend and colleague is severely asthmatic. The hospital policy is that everyone who works in the hospital in any capacity has to wear a mask, so my DDs friend does. She has to. A lanyard will not keep her safe. Secondly. There was a story in the paper a while ago about a man who got on a plane without a mask. He said he was asthmatic and couldn't wear one for the length of the flight. The other passengers set up such a cacophony of boos and complaints that he had to wear one or get off. So he wore one. He promptly went to the press to tell his tale and complain about his cruel treatment. The irony seemed to completely pass him by. Not only had he worn the mask but he didn't have an asthma attack and he lived to tell the tale.

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If teachers can threaten to strike feeling they have unsafe working conditions goodness knows what shop workers would be able to claim. Dealing with idiotic adults not children from whom there is less risk allegedly. There is no social distancing in shops and the lanyards are available to anyone just print one off. My DH has one for his disability but it's nothing to do with breathing, he could abuse it but he doesn't but many will.

The difference is that contact in a supermarket will be very brief , a few minutes at the most whereas in school a teacher will be in a confined space with up to 30 teenagers for at least an hour then move in to another 30
Obviously everyone in a shop should wear a mask though.

Oh dear, moggie57, that sounds horrible. I hope you recover soon - most people with the virus do recover, as I keep reminding myself.

I think the shop keepers are afraid of being attacked and they point out they are not the police. Fair enough.There are still people walking around who think its all 'fake news' and they are in a Big Brother situation and being oppressed by the government!!
I can see that people are beginning to speak out and when I was in the Post Office recently, which has all the 2 metres signs in place ,a man behind the person behind me had no mask. The woman questioned him... he just laughed and said he was still alive. When she pointed out he could potentially be responsible for someone getting very unwell or even dying he just laughed. These people are the problem.

My son has told me not to challenge people who are not wearing a mask in shops! It should be the other way round! I am sick of people with so called exemptions flouting the rules, as far as i can see there should be no exemptions apart from people with severe learning disabilities who just wouldn't keep them one. If we all challenged people maybe they would be embarrassed into doing the right thing but maybe I'd get a black eye!

And if they can't wear a mask for some reason they should wear a see thro visor.

I said from the start of this that if I was a shop owner I'd put a notice on the door to say 'No mask, No entry.' The shops let them in as they don't want to lose money. Simple as that. ?

OK have some bad news.I have the virus .god knows how.not the full covid but it has attacked my gastric places.am being sick .I can't keep down food .I ache all over am dehydrated and woozy.am constipated and stomach pains.been to urgent care three times.yesterday had antibiotics and painkillers by drip.still dehydrated no matter how much water I drink.

Two colleagues in Tesco Greenock have died with Covid so I rather suspect Tesco's all over will improve their Covid policies

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Here, in south Cornwall, the bus drivers won't let you on without a mask or lanyard. Otherwise most people are wearing masks, except the tourists, of which there are still quite a few around, maybe they're second home owners. They stand out by a mile! And our Covid numbers are increasing. I do hope more stringent measures are brought in.

So VERY sick of the generalisation that everyone in Cornwall who won't wear a mask must be a tourist or a second home owner. It's very lazy, insulting and xenophobic. Can you please stop this? Comments like this (of which, at various places on the internet) are seriously off-putting to those who you'd normally be welcoming to the county for the tourist revenue. (And do you know where these 'quite a few' tourists are staying, with all hospitality closed? No, didn't think so.)
I'd also love to know what makes a second home owner 'stand out a mile' too, for future reference for when I eventually manage to re-visit my own house there. Then I'll know what to wear so you locals can avoid me.

Downing St press conference at 5, allegedly re exercise and supermarkets.

The only shop I'd consider going into, a little convenience store, has a strict rule.

Those not wearing masks will not be served, they'll be told to leave.

I do admire the owner, who says he has a right to refuse to serve people.

Rosie51 If someone's health issues are such that they can't wear a mask for the duration of a shop, then they're far too vulnerable to be out and about in a pandemic.
Iagree that there are those who say they're exempt and actually aren't, but that's not everyone, some of us actually do have conditions which give us exemption.

What would someone who is 'genuinely exempt' do under 'your' rules, if they live alone, don't get on with their neighbours, have no-one local who could shop or collect meds for them and don't spend enough on groceries to get home deliveries?
I guess it would be perfectly OK in your mind for them to either starve due to a lack of sustenance, die from a lack of 'essential' medication or commit suicide through poor mental health due to never being allowed to set foot outside their home.

I was shocked to see a whole family in the supermarket without masks the other day. Apart from not wearing masks I thought that the idea was that people didn't take the whole family on a shopping expedition, particularly children. I suppose that the security guard on the door didn't feel up to taking on four adults to stop them coming in, but people were visibly backing away from them, including the poor cashier.

Not other people

JenniferEccles Visors protect the wearer nor other people. Visors are fine but, a mask is also needed,

People seem to have forgotten about the bus driver in France, during the first lockdown, who was killed for confronting a passenger for not wearing a mask.

I agree that things should be tightened up and masks compulsory but, most shop workers, bus drivers etc are neither sufficiently trained nor paid enough to police mask wearing.

Would those who say they can’t wear a mask get on better with a visor?

They are not claustrophobic at all and glasses don’t mist up.
Better than nothing I would have thought.

If teachers can threaten to strike feeling they have unsafe working conditions goodness knows what shop workers would be able to claim. Dealing with idiotic adults not children from whom there is less risk allegedly. There is no social distancing in shops and the lanyards are available to anyone just print one off. My DH has one for his disability but it's nothing to do with breathing, he could abuse it but he doesn't but many will.

@Nannan2 Boris does give the impression he feels like Churchill! But he’s more Churchill dog than Winston ?

I always wear a mask, it’s uncomfortable but it’s not for a long period of time. I think of the NHS staff and how uncomfortable they must be having to wear a mask all day. If they can put up with it, so can I. We’re all in this together and we all have to do what we can. Shops should be given the powers to stop people entering without a mask or a lanyard.

I agree people should wear masks it's getting ridiculous. My friend AS wears a mask at all times he has very limited lung capacity so if he can anyone can their is no excuses.

Rosie 51 Good luck with that?
I find, as an asmathatic, a perspex face shield (anti splash}that covers from forehead to below the chin has yet to be challenged by anyone be they staff or shoppers when carrying out my shopping.
This is comfortable.can be thoroughly cleansed and reused.

Grannyrose- im sure they wouldnt be the same health professionals checking/doling out these that are employed to 'roll out' the vaccines- they do have different departments for different things i hear....

Grannyrose- so it was,-but often it is said that Churchill referred to or quoted some of Shakespeare's works into his own works.