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And what of Oprah herself? What do we know (or think) about her? ?

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Urmstongran Sun 07-Mar-21 18:30:52

To be honest I didn’t know this much.

(Quoted from the Sunday Telegraph today).

Yet part of Winfrey’s mass appeal is that she walks the walk, her dramatic rags-to-self-made-billions the stuff of distinctly American fairy tales. Born into rural poverty in Mississippi to a teenage single mother, she lived with her grandmother until the age of six, was raped by multiple family members and got pregnant at 14 as a result of sexual abuse, only for her baby to die soon after birth.

At school, however, she flourished, and won a scholarship to Tennessee State University. At 19, she dropped out of her degree when she was offered a job as the youngest, and first black female, news anchor at Nashville’s WLAC-TV. Her emotional style, however, did not go down well on a straight news programme and she was transferred to an ailing daytime chat show, People Are Talking, in 1978. When in 1984 she relocated to Chicago, to take over a morning chat show, its name was quickly changed from AM Chicago to The Oprah Winfrey Show. Oprah had found her “alignment”.

As any good interviewer knows, the best way to elicit a confession is to offer one of your own. The British photographer and writer Carinthia West, who first met Winfrey on the set of the 1985 film The Color Purple the year after her move to Chicago, believes the Oprah effect stems from exactly this: her own willingness to show the uncomfortable, ugly side, on everything from her sexual abuse to her struggles with her weight.

‘Though she has huge wealth and power, she’s still very much that down-home girl’
“I think of her wheeling that 67lb of fat onstage [in 1988, to visually represent the weight she had recently lost] and I can’t think of anyone else who would be prepared to be that open,” says West.

When she returned to the US to interview Winfrey in the early 1990s, by which time the chat show host was world famous, West was “welcomed with open arms”.

“Though she has huge wealth and power now, she’s still very much that down-home girl,” says West. “She was seriously hurt in her own life, so she’s attracted to other people who, rightly or wrongly, feel they have been hurt in their own.”

Calendargirl Mon 08-Mar-21 09:35:27

I used to watch ‘The Oprah Winfrey Show’ in the afternoons. Must be nearly 30 years ago. Often really interesting.
Particularly remember two of them.
She was always fighting to keep her weight down, had a personal chef, she managed to lose loads at one time and proudly came on the show in skin tight jeans. She looked amazing. Unfortunately, the weight came back on. She later confessed she could hardly breathe in her skin tight jeans, and couldn’t wait to take them off after the show.
Another time she interviewed Clint Eastwood at his ranch, it was just when The Bridges Of Madison County was a huge hit as a book and film, she was so excited to meet him and see the truck that was used in the film.

I really liked her.

Callistemon Mon 08-Mar-21 10:42:01

Excellent post, M0nica
I think that sums up the situation very well.

TerriBull Mon 08-Mar-21 11:26:23

Just read your post Monica, I think you have articulated the absolute essence of what many of us feel. Excellent post.

Lucca Mon 08-Mar-21 11:28:08

But this thread is about Oprah, not harry and Meghan. There’s enough other threads all about them....

maddyone Mon 08-Mar-21 11:30:14

Good post Monica
You have summed up the situation very well.

Blinko Mon 08-Mar-21 11:45:40

Excellent summary, M0nica. ( I would do the 'applause' icon but don't know how...)

M0nica Mon 08-Mar-21 12:13:08

Thank you. I have just been getting so fed up with the hype and posturing and newspaper reports about 'her truth'. How about the truth or 'how I saw it' that I knew I would lose my cool sooner ot later on one thread or another.

Anniebach Mon 08-Mar-21 12:15:22

Applause *MOnica

Esspee Mon 08-Mar-21 12:21:51

Well said M0nica. I thought she would be a breath of fresh air into the monarchy and I was so happy for Harry. Sad it turned sour so quickly.

LauraNorder Mon 08-Mar-21 12:24:10

Well put MOnica.

JenniferEccles Mon 08-Mar-21 12:25:57

ShelaghALLEN I hope you will read and take in what MOnica said earlier as she has explained extremely well how the situation with Meghan played out here.

Meghan WAS initially accepted and given every chance to fit in here with the media, the Royal family themselves and vast majority of the public willing to give her a chance.

Sadly though all that goodwill was thrown back in our faces until we were able to see her for the scheming, manipulative woman she is.

glammanana Mon 08-Mar-21 12:28:29

Urmstongran Thanks so much for a brilliant thread

Alegrias1 Mon 08-Mar-21 12:30:34

This thread is about Oprah. Anybody can say anything they like in any thread of course, but it would be really nice if we could talk about Oprah!

Calendargirl Mon 08-Mar-21 12:33:23

Alegrias1

This thread is about Oprah. Anybody can say anything they like in any thread of course, but it would be really nice if we could talk about Oprah!

I did!

JenniferEccles Mon 08-Mar-21 12:41:33

Back to Oprah then!

If she really is the hotshot interviewer she is widely claimed to be, wouldn’t we like to hope that she would challenge M and H on some of their assertions?

Otherwise it will just be like anyone sitting and listening to a friend complaining bitterly about their in-laws with just the occasional sympathetic nod of the head.

Shouldn’t this be an opportunity for Oprah to show us how she got to be the most famous interviewer in the world?

GrannyLaine Mon 08-Mar-21 12:47:30

ShelaghALLEN I'm curious to know why you refer to 'The Sussex' - singular? Is it meant to be ironic?

maddyone Mon 08-Mar-21 12:49:36

I agree Jennifer, from the clips I’ve seen there is absolutely no challenge to Meghan, Oprah is showing that she is not impartial, rather she appears to be sympathetic to Meghan’s claims. The mark of a good interviewer is impartiality and the ability to push the interviewee, in order to draw out the truth, perhaps even making the interviewee feel rather uncomfortable as the truth is sought.
Meghan is a better actress than I thought.

Alegrias1 Mon 08-Mar-21 12:49:50

I tried, UG, I tried.... Honourable mention to Lucca and Calendargirl ?

Iam64 Mon 08-Mar-21 12:57:42

Thanks for posting the summary of Oprah’s life urmston. I knew she’d been sexually abused in childhood but hadn’t been aware of the extent.
She is obviously very academically intelligent. She also emotionally intelligent.
The snippets of news I’ve heard on the radio today suggest the interview was well received in America. Also, that in the UK it’s older generations who are angry and dismissive of M and H. I continue to find it difficult to understand the level of hostility towards these two. The need so many posters have to be Team RF and to assume that it’s impossible to consider the feelings of ‘both sides’.
Family breakdown, estrangement is devastating for everyone involved. I feel sympathy for the key family members here. Not for the courtiers, the men and women in suits who are paid to offer support and guidance. I acknowledge advice and guidance isn’t always followed as personality comes into it.

Anniebach Mon 08-Mar-21 13:01:42

I feel sorry for both families, his and hers

Nell8 Mon 08-Mar-21 13:01:46

Hello ShelaghALLEN No, I'm not a typo.....just one of several Nells on Gransnet.
It's good to hear from someone in Canada (my DiL is from Calgary).

I just wanted to squeak up. We haven't all "now fallen out of love with the pair". I still think they are super.... and Oprah is too, of course!

maddyone Mon 08-Mar-21 13:25:22

Like Annie, I feel very sorry for both families, his and hers.

maddyone Mon 08-Mar-21 13:27:39

Talking about Oprah, from the clips I have seen, I reiterate, she was not impartial. Is a lack of impartiality a mark of a good interviewer?

Smileless2012 Mon 08-Mar-21 13:40:55

From the clips I've seen my overall view of Oprah regarding this 'interview' is extreme disappointment. I really thought she would have actually interviewed them instead of simply providing a world stage for them to bitch and moan about the RF.

I'm surprised that they were both enabled, by a seasoned professional, to make such critical statements about racism, and no help being available to M when she needed it for her mental health, without naming names.

For H to say a member of his family said such a thing about Archie before he was born, and refuse to say who it was stinks quite frankly. So, he would rather have an accusation of racism hanging over his entire family, with the exception of The Queen and PP, than have the courage so say who it was.

Oopsadaisy1 Mon 08-Mar-21 13:48:36

I think that against all odds, Oprah is pretty amazing, to come from nothing in the USA you would have to have been someone pretty special.
She obviously tapped into a very popular market with her shows back in the day, although when I used to watch them, she was always friendly and polite to her guests, I don’t think I ever saw her grill anyone, maybe she only interviewed (s) people she likes?
No doubt about it, she has become an icon in the USA.
I haven’t seen any previews of the show from last night , so I’ll reserve judgement.