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mrsmopp Tue 09-Mar-21 10:27:06

If you are a member of the RF you live a life of luxury. Everything is done for you. Charles doesn’t even put toothpaste on his brush himself. They live in fabulous palaces and have teams of servants.
If you are a single mum living in a tower block, trying to exist on a cleaners pay - that’s trapped. H and M don’t know the meaning of being trapped.

Doodledog Tue 09-Mar-21 10:33:39

I'm not getting into a RF 'debate' grin, but what I will say is that we all live different lives, and don't know the meaning of things that happen to others.

It's like when people trot out 'first world problem' after someone has complained that they can't get an appointment with their GP - yes, people in most of the world could only dream of having access to a free health service, but it doesn't lessen the fear or frustration of being ill in the UK and not getting treatment.

We don't (and can't) judge the reactions of others on how we think we would react in their shoes - we aren't in them and can't possibly know.

midgey Tue 09-Mar-21 10:35:43

It’s a case of the phrase - Walk a mile in my shoes.

Katie59 Tue 09-Mar-21 13:25:51

The problem with being a Royal is that you cannot have a private life, it’s a goldfish bowl, every move you make is scrutinized and if you don’t make a move that’s scrutinized too.

This was the problem with Charles and Harry it’s very difficult to find a partner who wants that life, Kate did, Meghan thought she did but didn’t. For any of us that live close to the in-laws and other family members, know that it can be very stressful, if you fall out you move away, that’s all that’s happened with H&M! It’s commonplace.

Pantglas2 Tue 09-Mar-21 13:41:28

Katie59

The problem with being a Royal is that you cannot have a private life, it’s a goldfish bowl, every move you make is scrutinized and if you don’t make a move that’s scrutinized too.

This was the problem with Charles and Harry it’s very difficult to find a partner who wants that life, Kate did, Meghan thought she did but didn’t. For any of us that live close to the in-laws and other family members, know that it can be very stressful, if you fall out you move away, that’s all that’s happened with H&M! It’s commonplace.

Very true Katie but the difference is that most young family members choosing that option wouldn’t feel entitled to be subsidised by a parent after having done so!

Harry’s indignation was stunning to behold and so telling of the vanity he has about his station in life - a cherrypicker par excellence!

Hithere Tue 09-Mar-21 13:47:30

Yes, you can be trapped by the expectations out on you just by being born into that family, the role you are expected to have and the career you can or cannot follow.

It can be overwhelming to have to be picture perfect because a pic can be taken anytime and even then, anybody can bash you

Yes, very trapped

Hithere Tue 09-Mar-21 13:48:13

Put,not out

Iam64 Tue 09-Mar-21 13:48:49

Wealth and privilege mean you don’t have to worry about paying the bills. It doesn’t protect you from mental health or family breakdown.
It isn’t either or. As some posters on gransnet are fond of repeating - all lives matter.

Armadillo Tue 09-Mar-21 14:01:30

I think remember that saying, money doesn't buy happiness. I'd hate if I wasn't safe leaving the house just because I was royal. Look what happened to Diana because the press were hounding her everywhere. That's not a life I'd want my children living really and if I brought children into it I think I wouldn't take away the security they needed just for being my child. Horrible life where your only use is to be royal and make your family look good.
Sorry my first Tim commenting here and now worried I've I'm going to get told off. Just what I think really.

Tangerine Tue 09-Mar-21 14:06:30

They are trapped in a different way from a single parent in a tower block existing on a cleaner's pay.

I agree about the luxuries. Yes, they get to be miserable in comfort which is clearly better than being miserable with not much to eat and in difficult housing.

I think the people in the RF have a rotten life in many ways, such as being constantly watched and having limited privacy, and I would not like it. Sometimes, though, they do not help themselves.

Ro60 Tue 09-Mar-21 14:17:20

👍 Congratulations Armadillo on your new - experience. So true.

A Buddhist friend used to say "life is about suffering". (I used to say life is about love)
I wouldn't like to live any of my friends lives & you wouldn't like to live mine either.
However, I dwell on the positives & sometimes it's just that the sun is in the sky, someone smiled at me, a heart warming story on tv, a flower, dinner turned out nice again.

Parsley3 Tue 09-Mar-21 14:26:17

The problem with being a Royal is that you cannot have a private life, it’s a goldfish bowl, every move you make is scrutinized and if you don’t make a move that’s scrutinized too.

How true this is. Even those Royals who keep their heads down are fair game. There was a recent documentary about Princess Anne and her unsuitable boyfriends. If having a RF is still a requirement, then it is time to prune it down to a bare minimum and let the rest of them get on with being private citizens. The idea of being Royal has had its day, imo.

EllanVannin Tue 09-Mar-21 15:27:52

I wouldn't have their life for a gold clock, or all the tea in China.

Jillyjosie Tue 09-Mar-21 16:34:05

Money can't buy happiness, simple. Why does an adult male need servants? Having someone to put toothpaste on your toothbrush is just being an overgrown infant.
We are all, to a large extent, trapped in the circumstances dictated by our birth and upbringing. No wonder the royals have affairs and mistresses and have unsavoury paedophile friends. Presumably the single mum didn't get vetted for her virginity or her suitability as a mate before being allowed to consort with the father of her child!!
The Royals have horrible lives and our tabloid newspapers should be closed down!

Atqui Tue 09-Mar-21 16:54:29

They certainly won’t get any privacy if they opt to do an interview with Oprah!!

sodapop Tue 09-Mar-21 17:28:31

No one is going to tell you off Armadillo welcome to GN. I agree with your post entirely. Not the cushy life some people think it is.

M0nica Tue 09-Mar-21 18:19:29

Pantglas there are plenty of threads on GN about ordinary people like us, with AC still stuck in the nest, their mouths open like great big cuckoos waiting for the mother bird to feed them and provide every domestic service they need - and there are ACs, who may be partnered and with children but who still expect parents to provide endless childcare, pay for car repairs and other items.

There is nothing happening in the RF that is not mirrored at every level of society.

I can remember back in the 1940s, when I was very young saying something about it being nice to be a princess, and my mother saying, she could imagine nothing worse, having to live your whole life in public - and the papers were monuments of discretion then.

Lexisgranny Tue 09-Mar-21 18:25:38

Apart from small girls under the age of 10, is there anyone who would like to marry into the Royal family?

That could also apply to the male of the species!!

varian Tue 09-Mar-21 18:25:47

The huge downside of being a member of the Royal family is having to put on a good face for the public and, worst of all having to put up with the constant intrusion of paparazzi and the press, especially the appalling UK tabloids.

It seems to me that there are now two sorts of people - those who want to be famous and those who don't. I am firmly in the latter camp. I can't imagine anything worse than having my picture in the newspapers and being constantly reported or misreported by the media.

Meghan Markle was an actress, and because she had appeared in at least one popular tv programme, had become a "celeb". Being famous should have been second nature to her. Where did it all go wrong?

Pantglas2 Tue 09-Mar-21 18:27:32

I know Monica but most of those are genuinely stretched on huge outgoings/low wages etc and I’m sure most wouldn’t have the brass nerve go on telly with the “poor me” act when they have inheritances in the bank from their mother/great grandmother!

GagaJo Tue 09-Mar-21 18:33:50

I'm currently living in a beautiful Victorian building, overlooking gardens and a small river, backed by a castle and a church. It is clean, peaceful and lovely. But I am stuck here because of covid. Yes, I feel like I am trapped, in a way I didn't in lockdown one in my home.

It's all relative. (Yes, still preferable to being locked in a tower block.)

M0nica Tue 09-Mar-21 18:35:25

You are obviously reading different threads to me Pantglas the threads I am thinking of are threads from desperate parents trying to get rid of these great greedy cuckoos who are draining them dry, either refusing to work or making no effort to work and expecting to live off their parents, or making grandparents earn there visits to grandchildren by providing enough service. There are others where parents help children struggling and in need, but those are very different threads.

The royal family are having exactly the same problem, a younger member and family who think the world, or at least their parents, owe them a living and kicking and screaming like 2 year olds having a tantrum because they have been told that they either join the family firm and pull their weight or go and find themselves another job elsewhere to earn their keep.

Pantglas2 Tue 09-Mar-21 18:48:28

“You are obviously reading different threads to me Pantglas” - methinks you’re right Monica, those threads would have me tearing my hair out😨!

I suspect most parents have ‘helped out’ one way or another when needed but ingratitude isn’t attractive is it!

M0nica Tue 09-Mar-21 19:01:51

Oh, yes, quite agree, we have helped our children out when the need was there. But neither of us, I suspect has children who demand that we house them and feed them, and pay them a living wage, while they lie around doing nothing or worse still have earnings or capital of their own but still expect us to help support their lifestyle.

Some families have children like that, and in this case the RF clearly does.

nadateturbe Tue 09-Mar-21 23:31:25

mrsmopp I too thought that. H said regardless of what was going on in your own life you had to go out and smile and shake hands. But so many people are coping with major problems in life whilst holding down real full time jobs.