Piers Morgan walking off set this morning

If I was his wife, who by the way seems to be a lovely woman, I would be concerned about his continual talk about Meghan, it seems to be obsessive.

NellG

WWM was there a need to be so patronising?

Then don’t ask daft questions to which you clearly know the answer.

suziewoozie I am shocked that you say we shouldn’t have free speech in this country. Would you prefer the UK to be like China where ‘free speech’ is not allowed? Is it right that the people in China cannot speak out against the abuse of the Uyghar people and other ethnic minorities? Is this the kind of society you want in the UK?

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We all have to temper free speech with what is PC or sensitive to employment, after a long history criticizing Meghan, PM crossed the line on editorial free speech and is gone - end of.

Whitewavemark2

NellG

WWM was there a need to be so patronising?

Then don’t ask daft questions to which you clearly know the answer.

It took me a moment to fathom what was meant. However thank you for letting me know that you are another poster who thrives on pointless hostility. Another one to ignore.

In respect of the opening post, I should imagine that by the end of the week, PM will have another job and will carry on the tradition of "gobshiteing" for Tabloid news. He feeds the hate he knows is out there re; M&H or anything/anybody else.

Gwyneth

suziewoozie I am shocked that you say we shouldn’t have free speech in this country. Would you prefer the UK to be like China where ‘free speech’ is not allowed? Is it right that the people in China cannot speak out against the abuse of the Uyghar people and other ethnic minorities? Is this the kind of society you want in the UK?

Of course we don’t have free speech - we have laws of libel, slander, hate crime - free speech means the freedom to speak without consequences. We don’t have that and neither should we. No one can be allowed to say whatever they want without consequences. There is a huge difference between PM being free without consequence to basically call MM a liar and the suppression of political dissent that we see in countries like Turkey, Hong Kong, Myanmar, Belarus and so on.

We don’t have free speech on GN do we?

Boz

In respect of the opening post, I should imagine that by the end of the week, PM will have another job and will carry on the tradition of "gobshiteing" for Tabloid news. He feeds the hate he knows is out there re; M&H or anything/anybody else.

GB News is an apparent candidate. Just think two massive egos in the form of Neil and Morgan.

I agree with what has been said before, PM overstepped line line. However, government officials must be very happy that they will not be grilled by him
The two interviews this morning, one dealing with Facebook trolling and the other with costs on track and trace were not dealt with in depth, they got off very lightly.

NellG

Whitewavemark2

NellG

WWM was there a need to be so patronising?

Then don’t ask daft questions to which you clearly know the answer.

It took me a moment to fathom what was meant. However thank you for letting me know that you are another poster who thrives on pointless hostility. Another one to ignore.

I apologise for my remark. I let my irritation get the better of me at times and always regret it.

suziewoozie

We don’t have free speech on GN do we?

Sometimes posts do cross the line on discrimination of minorities and personal abuse is not allowed otherwise we’re pretty free to express our opinion,

Katie59

suziewoozie

We don’t have free speech on GN do we?

Sometimes posts do cross the line on discrimination of minorities and personal abuse is not allowed otherwise we’re pretty free to express our opinion,

You’ve made my point - there is nowhere that has unfettered free speech.

I don’t get up early enough to watch breakfast tv but DH does. Over the past year PM has been one of the few presenters/interviewers to hold the government to account for their mishandling of the pandemic. Only the other day he spoke out about people jogging past other people and not wearing masks, something that bothers us when we’re out walking the dog.

WWM2 Thank you, I'm guilty of it myself more often than I'd like.

I read a few weeks ago that his contract was up and he would be leaving in April. I suspect it was all contrived , so he left amidst a drama and to add intrigue to the show .

NellG

WWM2 Thank you, I'm guilty of it myself more often than I'd like.

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For those who are confused regarding the free speech comments.

We do have free speech in the UK in the form of freedom of expression, a right defined in the Human Rights act - however it is considered a 'negative' right in the UK as our free speech cannot be hate speech. So, any expression that is racist, ableist, sexist, homophobic etc is considered hate speech and there are rights and laws designed to protect from it. In practice of course it's harder to pin down, because impressions of what constitutes hate speech vary. They shouldn't but they do.

The point being made is that it is absolutely right that hate speech is not free speech.

The point just wasn't made very clearly.

MayBee70

I don’t get up early enough to watch breakfast tv but DH does. Over the past year PM has been one of the few presenters/interviewers to hold the government to account for their mishandling of the pandemic. Only the other day he spoke out about people jogging past other people and not wearing masks, something that bothers us when we’re out walking the dog.

I never watch GMB, but am sort of aware that Morgan has been very critical of the government in recent months, which is no bad thing, and something any good reporter should do.

But here’s the thing, just like others of his ilk he isn’t above lying to get a story “proved”, isn’t above bullying or lacking control.

I can’t support someone like that.

NellG

For those who are confused regarding the free speech comments.

We do have free speech in the UK in the form of freedom of expression, a right defined in the Human Rights act - however it is considered a 'negative' right in the UK as our free speech cannot be hate speech. So, any expression that is racist, ableist, sexist, homophobic etc is considered hate speech and there are rights and laws designed to protect from it. In practice of course it's harder to pin down, because impressions of what constitutes hate speech vary. They shouldn't but they do.

The point being made is that it is absolutely right that hate speech is not free speech.

The point just wasn't made very clearly.

It’s more than just about hate speech though isn’t it? We have libel and slander laws, we have reporting restrictions in our courts and other restrictions related to the judicial process , we have privacy and confidentiality laws, we have the seal of the confessional. All this limits our rights to say what we want when we want unfettered. There have been threads deleted on GN because they were subjudice or libellous. The thing is with freedom of speech, as it’s played out in the country atm is that it’s seen as ‘a good thing’ by those who agree with what’s been said.

I don't watch morning TV, so can't really pass comment.

However, according to Sharon Osbourne Piers Morgan was 'speaking his truth'.

If MM speaks her 'truth' in front of millions casting aspersions left right and centre and in doing so is able decry the Britsh establishment and her inlaws to boot on worldwide television, why can't anyone else have the right to reply with their 'truth' ?

Cherrytree59

I don't watch morning TV, so can't really pass comment.

However, according to Sharon Osbourne Piers Morgan was 'speaking his truth'.

If MM speaks her 'truth' in front of millions casting aspersions left right and centre and in doing so is able decry the Britsh establishment and her inlaws to boot on worldwide television, why can't anyone else have the right to reply with their 'truth' ?

Who is Sharon Osborne? What’s her ‘truth’?

Sharon - Ozzy Osbournes wife maybe, hardly significant

That aside, the recent trend where news presenters actually promote their own opinions rather than just reporting the the news, is a big change. It’s been happening in newspapers for some time and I don’t think it’s a change for the better because a lot of bias can come in.

Katie59

Sharon - Ozzy Osbournes wife maybe, hardly significant

That aside, the recent trend where news presenters actually promote their own opinions rather than just reporting the the news, is a big change. It’s been happening in newspapers for some time and I don’t think it’s a change for the better because a lot of bias can come in.

The rules are different between newspapers and broadcasters. Newspapers can be as biased as they wish within the laws eg of libel, copyright, confidentiality etc.