Feeling sorry for men

'Men just need to use some common sense and basic manners.'

AS do some women.

I agree with Sparkling. She's put that very well. (Sorry if that was too complimentary ?)

Loislovesstewie
We work in a company in which almost all our customers are male.
When someone is approached by our tiny, blonde daughter, they often say ‘can I speak to one of the chaps love’ she smiles, ‘yes of course’
So one of our male colleagues takes over, and says, ‘oh I’ll just get S—— she knows more about this’
She is incredibly knowledgable, and helpful, just has a job getting anyone to believe it.
To be fair to our regulars, they’re happy to be told what’s what by her.

Sara1954, just love that!

I posted on here and it’s been deleted. Can’t for the life of me understand why! Very annoying!

Gingster are you going to ask the management why they deleted it?

I'm afraid the knickers would have remained where they had fallen, with a word to neighbour that she was having a laundry malfunction.
I don't think OH or myself overly worry about offending people, just rely on good manners, tact and a bit of social awareness.
The area that bothers my OH the most is contact with children. We both get uncomfortable when small children are unsupervised, particularly at the seaside. Last summer, a naked boy, aged around 3, was just wondering about, and no one seemed to go near him. He eventually found his family a lot further away, and they were oblivious to his adventure.
We have had many discussions on this kind of incident, and OH will never intervene, unless they are drowning.
Sad indictment of the world if we are afraid to comfort a lost child and take them to safety.

Santana
I may not get any thanks, but I couldn’t leave a crying child. I would hate to think of our youngest granddaughter lost and frightened, and no one taking any notice of her, it just goes against human nature.

There are ways to help a child that are relatively easy, with a lost child it is useful to help with another person. There are all sorts of reasons for this. I found 2 very young children wandering our village, they were around 4, and it turned out had been in the front garden and made a run for it. I did help them, but it was extraordinarily difficult as they were frightened. It would have been much much safer for those children if I had asked someone else for help.

Galaxy
Agree

I am not afraid to help with a lost child. Most of the time parents appreciate it. I just won't take them anywhere else than where I found them (unless there were obvious safety issues where they were).

I was at the hospital a few weeks ago and a toddler had run across the car park. Mum and Dad were busy loading up a brand new baby in the car. I took the child's hand and lead him back to his parents. They didn't seem to appreciate it, probably thought it was interference, but this kid was on the road around from a sharp bend. Occasionally you get that kind of response but most of the time the parent says thank you.

I'm afraid people who can't see the difference between commenting on the weather and commenting on someone's physical appearance are the problem.

Having just read Vampire's entire very interesting thread I must compliment you all on the thoughtful replies
I can't help thinking this is nothing new. Read Jane Austen for examples of taking offence easily.

Covid has exaggerated the difficulties. Where once I would go to someone's aid if I see they have dropped something or need help with their shopping, I now feel I can't.

About 40 years ago a woman acquaintance came to the door and DH invited her inside. "Is .DW... (me) home?" she asked. DH was horrified to think she thought he was being inappropriate.

Grammaretto - thanks for introducing Jane Austin- what larks

Do misogynists ever lighten up?
vegansrock Dunno! None around here to ask!

How many misandrists does it take to change a misogynist?
OoRoo

Alegrias
"I'm afraid people who can't see the difference between commenting on the weather and commenting on someone's physical appearance are the problem."

You are so right!

During covid, we met a daycare teacher and she commented how chubby my daughter had become since lockdown

I had to explain to her that commenting in anybody's appearance is not appropriate, much less in front of the child.

My DH would have sent me next door to re peg the knickers on the line. Today it is a lot better than years ago. I can remember one boss who used to think it was ok to pat our bottoms, until I told my mam and she came into work! I was only 17 at the time. The guidelines are there now and both men and women have to adhere to them. It isn’t rocket science as both sexes should be respected.

. Sorry hithere that you experienced that, completely inappropriate.

Your mam sounds fab purplepixie.

Round of applause for purplepixie's mum!

I wish she could have been sent to the set of Dr Who, she might have been able to sort out the situation there.

Thankfully times have changed on the whole regarding unwanted sexual comments.
However, am I being naively nostalgic when I say it is a pity men and women may lose the art of innocent flirting? I remember it brightened up one’s day considerably and made me feel like a woman. With eyes down, walking on eggshells and grim faces, men have lost their charm and there seem to be some very bitter women on this thread. Even Germaine Greer admitted to how much pleasure she got from attention from men in Italy?
And it is truly upsetting to someone like me, who likes to compliment people on something pleasing to the eye, male or female, that my words have been twisted to a horrible thought.

That my words ‘may’ have been twisted to a horrible thought.

....and there seem to be some very bitter women on this thread.

Care to elaborate?

No, I dont think the innocent flirting will go anywhere
I hope both sides interpreting the reaction of the other one realistically and women feeling more empowered to say no directly and assertively w/o feeling scared of the person's reaction