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“You realise that’s racist mum”

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Esspee Fri 21-May-21 11:30:51

Well no, I didn’t.

Son had just taken on a new highly profitable client for his company and as I congratulated him I added “You will be (employers name) blue eyed boy this month”.

I had to stop and think, but yes, I suppose he is right. How many other phrases do you use which could be deemed offensive?

I’ll start...
Mirror mirror on the wall. Who is the fairest ?

Alegrias1 Fri 21-May-21 15:53:29

Judy Collins did.

genius.com/Judy-collins-i-know-where-im-going-lyrics

welbeck Fri 21-May-21 16:09:06

and that's a useful site for looking up official lyrics, re the mondegreens.
thanks.

welbeck Fri 21-May-21 16:11:50

to say something is just a saying is not an excuse.
remember the agatha christie book with the unmentionable title; it is now called, and then there were none, which is fine.

Summerlove Fri 21-May-21 16:36:04

Calendargirl

Listening to some music at a BBQ at DS’s home once, a record was played and DS asked me if I knew who the group was. I didn’t, but said they sounded ‘black’.

That was a no-no apparently, but I meant nothing offensive with my remark. I hardly dare open my mouth now.

What does a black group sound like?

3nanny6 Fri 21-May-21 16:46:17

Summerlove ther are many black groups and so you can get many different records.
Just a quick example try Rivers of Babylon by Boney M it is old now but still quite catchy

Alegrias1 Fri 21-May-21 16:48:18

This has taken an odd turn.....

AGAA4 Fri 21-May-21 16:50:34

I've always thought "blue-eyed boy/girl" a silly phrase. It should just go especially if it offends.
I don't think many young people would know that phrase so it will fade away over time.

Galaxy Fri 21-May-21 16:53:37

I agree I havent heard that phrase in a very long time, it will just disappear.

Juno56 Fri 21-May-21 17:00:42

The singer of lead vocals in Boney M was white and German ?.

Chestnut Fri 21-May-21 17:11:22

Juno56

The singer of lead vocals in Boney M was white and German ?.

Boney M were a German group but none of them were white.

Juno56 Fri 21-May-21 17:50:08

The creator of the group and song writer was a German record producer called Frank Farian. He sang on the records and Bobby Farrell lip synched during performances. Bobby Farrell may have sung on some later performances but the early ones were Farian.

Juno56 Fri 21-May-21 17:53:13

I didn't mean to deflect from the OP, my apologies.

tickingbird Fri 21-May-21 17:58:26

What codswallop. I’d advise your son to get a life.

Kali2 Fri 21-May-21 18:02:18

How insensitive tickingbird. I trust that you do not have close family, grandhchildren or great friends who have been taunted and bullied for their skin colour.

Peasblossom Fri 21-May-21 18:06:03

Boney M weren’t a German group. Unless there is a different Boney M as well as the South London one?

tickingbird Fri 21-May-21 18:12:05

Kali2 Don’t go there. I’m not playing your game. I repeat with emphasis Codswallop!

Calendargirl Fri 21-May-21 18:15:25

Summerlove

I cannot define what I mean by ‘sounding like a black group’.

If my comment offends. I apologise. It is meant as a compliment actually, it’s a great sound.

Peasblossom Fri 21-May-21 18:16:49

Oh no, my mistake. I knew a couple of them when I taught in South London, Just assumed they were local ?

MawBe Fri 21-May-21 18:50:00

Oh the self- righteousness of youth- especially when based on a lack of understanding.

love0c Fri 21-May-21 19:11:06

We took out little granddaughter to the zoo at the weekend. She is a little treasure. When she was running across the wobbly bridge I called out 'you are a little monkey'. Thankfully I was not arrested!

vegansrock Fri 21-May-21 19:43:41

But love0c would you have said that if your granddaughter was black / mixed race? Being taunted with monkey noises is a well known way of taunting black
players in football.

Gannygangan Fri 21-May-21 19:58:48

I did mention my mixed race GC and me calling them cheeky monkeys. Just like I call the white ones.

Personally I don't think my GC look like monkeys. Do you think mixed race/black children look like monkeys, vegansrock?

No interest in the foul chants from football fans. They are just idiots.

vegansrock Fri 21-May-21 20:02:43

Football fans are ignorant morons, but you can’t deny the monkey chants, throwing bananas at black players is overtly racist. The language we use has implications, we aren’t conscious many of them. We should be more aware of this, even if we find it uncomfortable.

vegansrock Fri 21-May-21 20:03:29

Should read some football fans before I am bashed.

M0nica Fri 21-May-21 20:07:36

These are phrases that many of use use unthinkingly , and whilst they aren’t directly racist in any way, they nevertheless reinforce the beliefs that white is positive/ black negative.

Oh, please, anyone who finds themselves thinking negatively of someone who doesn't have pinky/beige skin, only because we talk of blackmail, black market or dark forces. In fact has anyone ever done that and where is the evidence.

In fact no one has either white or black skin but something along a range between those two extremes. I assume we shouldn't talk about someone wearing a drab brown coat, or the wintry colours of brown.. Then of course there is yellow, oh horror of horrors, that too is racist, as is red, and think of all those aliens we describe as little green men.

In fact there is not a single colour that cannot be considered racist and demeaning of someone, oh except purple, but I'm working on it.

The earliest Brtains were dark skinned and blue eyed and there are still today ethinic groups with that colouring.

Black/white they are the names of colours. Take it to ridiculous limits and describing snow as white will be considered racist. Many of the terms