Boris and Carrie have got married!

I thought they both looked really happy in the photos and I wish them well.

MayBee70

So the Catholic Church regards Johnson’s other children (the acknowledged ones) as illegitimate?

Is there an adult alive and well in the 21st century who gives a FF on the views of the Catholic Church in regard to illegitimacy?

Look, none of you seem to understand that I feel for Johnson’s other children because I know how much pain it caused my children when their dad left them. So I’ll leave you to your little Boris and Carrie love fest. I don’t pretend to be anything other than what I am which is obviously a very nasty spiteful person which is why I don’t like people being two faced about getting married in a church when, imo they lead lives that are far from Christian.

Wearing white only came into fashion mid to late 19th century I think, before that brides just wore their prettiest dress, but there aren’t many women now who choose a different colour for a church wedding.

I think Queen Victoria is said to have introduced the fashion for white wedding dresses, although I don't thinkshe was the first to wear white. She probably made it popular.

I wish them both well, they looked very happy.

MayBee70

Look, none of you seem to understand that I feel for Johnson’s other children because I know how much pain it caused my children when their dad left them. So I’ll leave you to your little Boris and Carrie love fest. I don’t pretend to be anything other than what I am which is obviously a very nasty spiteful person which is why I don’t like people being two faced about getting married in a church when, imo they lead lives that are far from Christian.

A person cannot compare personal experience with the experience of someone about whose previous marriages they know bugger all.

GrannyGravy13

MayBee70

So the Catholic Church regards Johnson’s other children (the acknowledged ones) as illegitimate?

illegitimate means absolutely nothing in the 21st century!

We had some of our children before we decided to get married, no problem nowadays, they were and are much loved and they could not give a flying fig regarding being born out of wedlock

Double hear hear! I was five months pregnant with my 2nd child when we got round to it, marriage that is

Illegitimacy is an awful out dated word, a slur that should never be applied to a child.

Yes of course they can. It's how human beings operate. We all draw from our own experiences.

MayBee70

Look, none of you seem to understand that I feel for Johnson’s other children because I know how much pain it caused my children when their dad left them. So I’ll leave you to your little Boris and Carrie love fest. I don’t pretend to be anything other than what I am which is obviously a very nasty spiteful person which is why I don’t like people being two faced about getting married in a church when, imo they lead lives that are far from Christian.

My Father left my Mother when I was five years old, he went on to marry numerous times.

Myself and my siblings (his children with subsequent wives) are extremely close, every situation is different.

I am sorry that your children felt abandoned, but I can assure you that that is not always the case.

Maybe your situation has clouded your opinion of this marriage?

Loved Carrie’s look, even though I’m not a fan of wedding dresses, especially the garland of white flowers which looked lovely with her long blonde hair.

However it is often the case grannygravy. I say this as someone who would never judge the behaviour but nor am I willing to pretend it is a good thing for the children concerned. I say this as someone who made mistakes with regard to her own children.

There is also some interesting work being done in America I think about what that kind of thing means for the children of those who are in deprived areas. It is disastrous. Pretending serial adultery involving children is ok tends to impact very badly on those who are most vulnerable. This is not to hold Johnson reasonable for this but rather to say that if as a society we pretend it's ok (none of us would wish it for our children so it is a pretence ) then it might not work out so well. It's useful to discuss the wider implications rather than focus on a particular couple.

Galaxy

There is also some interesting work being done in America I think about what that kind of thing means for the children of those who are in deprived areas. It is disastrous. Pretending serial adultery involving children is ok tends to impact very badly on those who are most vulnerable. This is not to hold Johnson reasonable for this but rather to say that if as a society we pretend it's ok (none of us would wish it for our children so it is a pretence ) then it might not work out so well. It's useful to discuss the wider implications rather than focus on a particular couple.

yes, it most probably is

I thought the dress was ok, although I wouldn't have paid £3,000 for it, but does no one else feel that the whole look was more suited to a teenage hippy not a 33 year old woman? As for the flowers - perhaps if it hadn't been to big. It looked as if it was going to slip down over her ears at any moment. We already know that Boris is old enough to be her father but this look really underlined it.

I think it is really funny that the wedding happened without a single whiff of it to the hungry media.
Boris and Carrie have pulled the wool over their eyes for once! I hope they enjoyed their intimate private celebration with their friends and family.

It's usually necessary to give 28 days notice before the date of the marriage and this is publicly displayed. How is it that nobody noticed? Or did he get special permission?

My own feeling is that he knew DC's disclosures were in the pipeline and thought that he'd turn the media focus away from DC to himself. Judging by 1/2 the comments on here people are very happy for him.

The Catholic Church had rather horrible rules long ago re.marriage outside the church and children born of those marriages.
My MIL a catholic from birth, married my FIL a non catholic , in 1926.Because he was not willing to convert to Catholicism MIL was told by her parish priest they could only have what the church called a mixed marriage which meant a very quick exchange of vows with no Mass, music or hymns.
She objected to this as she felt her husband -to-be was going to be treat as a heathan so cancelled her church wedding and they married in a registry office. The priest came to see her afterwards and asked where she had got married.When she told him he replied that her marriage was non existent in the eyes of the Catholic Church and unless they came to church for a blessing she would be regarded as living in sin and any children they had would be illegitimate.
This priest scared her so much she was frightened to go back to church for many years, and took both my husband and his sister to be baptised in the Anglican Church.Despite this she remained a catholic throughout her life, started going back to Mass when she got older but still remained terrified of priests and avoided any chance of speaking to them.
I am a practising catholic and am so pleased they are more lenient now but in the past t was not like this.

Deedaa

I thought the dress was ok, although I wouldn't have paid £3,000 for it, but does no one else feel that the whole look was more suited to a teenage hippy not a 33 year old woman? As for the flowers - perhaps if it hadn't been to big. It looked as if it was going to slip down over her ears at any moment. We already know that Boris is old enough to be her father but this look really underlined it.

I think it's just the kind of style my DD would choose and she's even older than Carrie!

I think it's boho chic.

But her taste in men may not be similar.

thank God for that Callistemon

Boris however, looked like he'd just finished a shift in a call centre

Love is blind, JaneJudge!

And - you can't choose for them

What a lovely bit of upbeat news.

Let’s hope Boris has at last found the one for him.

Life’s too short and uncertain to wish them anything but the very best.

I wonder if Dilyn was allowed at the ceremony. He appears to be a key member of their family. I hope he didn’t snaffle the bloater paste sarnies ?????

Agree with Calli ‘Boho Chic’ I love it, might even wear similar if/when I remarry!

BlueSky

Agree with Calli ‘Boho Chic’ I love it, might even wear similar if/when I remarry!

I think slender is the key so boho chic is not for me now!

I do remember making a flower garland like that in about 1967 though - If you're going to San Francisco, be sure to wear some flowers in your hair .... (or, in my case Cornwall).

I love the way they blindsided everyone! They apparently sent out ‘save the date’ cards that, on reflection, were ambiguous as they stated ‘come and celebrate our wedding in June 2022’. What they meant was ‘come to a party and help us celebrate the wedding that we actually had last summer!’.

Very clever. Kept it personal and very private. Lovely really.