Boris and Carrie have got married!

Lucca

Good idea but £45 seems unlikely! I just checked and to hire a wedding hat near me costs from £54 so surely a dress would be considerably more ..
Could have been mates rates though

Why do people always have to be so suspicious sceptical?
£45 from My Wardrobe HQ
according to several sources

MawBe

Ellianne

I agree with the "father" looking comments, but no one dare mention that Macron's wife is "mother" looking and is a quarter of a century older than he is.

Good point Ellianne - wasnt she his teacher too?

She might dress very smartly, wear shortish skirts and have good legs, but the age gap is still very obvious.

Yes has I have the same concerns about cheering on that behaviour as I do cheering on Johnsons.

MawBe I am
Absolutely not being either suspicious or sceptical! Just very surprised given the price of the dresses to buy I’m not remotely bothered how much she paid really!

None of the comments about who looks like who's mother or father are "good points". As for "good legs", did I wake up in the sixties this morning?

People can marry who they like as long as its not within the prohibitions for incest. Age difference is completely immaterial and is just salacious gossiping.

Are Johnson's other children regarded as illegitimate by the Catholic Church? I've always wondered if I was. My mum and dad were married in a Cof E church, but my dad was actually baptised a Catholic. I thought perhaps the RC wouldn't recognise their marriage.

I had a dress much like hers in the 70s. Flowers in my hair as well ( but not in a ring). Still got it somewhere.

Mais ouì .... Ellianne and Maw Macron’s wife is a quarter of a century older and was his teacher. But I admire them for the fact that they are still together, despite the scandal and opposition they had to face at the time.

Indeed there should be no scandal related to teachers having relationships with their pupils.

As an aside to B&C’s wedding most brides in the 1970’s wore Berkertex wedding dresses (remember those?) and mine cost £49.99, the veil was £15.
I wonder what the average bride spends on her wedding dress and veil today - thousands of £’s? .......

Are Johnson's other children regarded as illegitimate by the Catholic Church?

As they are not in the eyes of the law, then it makes the rules of the Catholic church even more irrelevant.

I just think that it is strange, considering the hoops one of my friends had to jump through as a non Catholic, to marry her Catholic fiance that it is now permissable to be married in a Catholic church if one of the couple is not only non Catholic, but divorced, and not just once but twice!
How things change!

It’s 2021 and illegitimate should in my opinion never ever be used in context of a child’s birth.

I think large age differences are nobody’s business apart from the couple’s. If they’re happy with it, why does it matter?

GrannyGravy13

It’s 2021 and illegitimate should in my opinion never ever be used in context of a child’s birth.

You are spot on GrannyGravy. In fact it’s impossible to be illegitimate now since a law was passed some time ago, I can’t remember when, which gives children born out of wedlock the same rights and status as those born in wedlock. For example, children born outside of marriage can now inherit in exactly the same way as those born in marriage. Quite right too, in my opinion. There are no illegitimate children now.

I’m sure even the Catholic Church will eventually marry whoever if it means not losing business!

But this isn’t a newborn child. These are young adults that have seen their father leave their mother for someone else and are now regarded by the church as non existent. I agree that no child is illegitimate. But this is the very same Church that treated unmarried mothers as criminals, made them give away their babies with no contact (eg Philomena). It’s just all so two faced.

Yes Maybee, in the past.

MayBee70

But this isn’t a newborn child. These are young adults that have seen their father leave their mother for someone else and are now regarded by the church as non existent. I agree that no child is illegitimate. But this is the very same Church that treated unmarried mothers as criminals, made them give away their babies with no contact (eg Philomena). It’s just all so two faced.

It’s the Church that is in the wrong.

Nobody know what goes on inside a marriage, it is not my place to judge

GrannyGravy13

It’s 2021 and illegitimate should in my opinion never ever be used in context of a child’s birth.

Blimey, yes, too right. It's a horrible, horrible world.

There's 24 years difference between Boris and Carrie. There's 26 between me and Mr C.
Only once have we been mistaken for father and daughter - and it was at that start of our relationship.
It was Father's Day, and a bloke in the pub asked Mr C if I was treating to a meal for Father's Day!
Mind you Carrie does look young for her age (when they were on holiday camping and she was wearing shorts, she looked about 15) and Boris looks older than his years.
He does much look better now though after being so ill.

GrannyGravy13

MayBee70

But this isn’t a newborn child. These are young adults that have seen their father leave their mother for someone else and are now regarded by the church as non existent. I agree that no child is illegitimate. But this is the very same Church that treated unmarried mothers as criminals, made them give away their babies with no contact (eg Philomena). It’s just all so two faced.

It’s the Church that is in the wrong.

Nobody know what goes on inside a marriage, it is not my place to judge

He didn’t have to get married in a Catholic Church. He could have had a civil ceremony at Downing Street (or even his country pad). But he took a course of action that resulted in his children not being acknowledged by the Catholic Church. Did he even think of them? I very much doubt it.

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I always thought she looked like Rob Beckett in that camping photograph

I always offer congratulations to newly wed couples. I don’t usually have all the knowledge we’ve been offered about their pasts, religious details, rights and wrongs etc. that we’ve been served up with for Boris and Carrie but I wouldn’t do anything other than wish them well anyway.
Congratulations B&C.

Jane she does! And Bodger is the absolute spit of his dad

MayBee70 as his previous marriages were not in a Catholic Church and as such not recognised why would his older children be recognised by the Catholic Church?

If they wish to convert to Catholicism it’s very easy to do so nowadays, I know several who have and one had been divorced twice ( registry office and C of E church weddings)

Galaxy

Indeed there should be no scandal related to teachers having relationships with their pupils.

Really?
Given that teachers are in loco parentis emotional or sexual attachments between teachers and their students (even over the age of sexual consent) are a very grey and undesirable area.