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FannyCornforth Tue 01-Jun-21 06:59:50

An Multi-Purpose Thread for All Things Royalty Based.

All are Welcome: Pro; Anti; Monarchist; Republican; a Strange Contradictory Mix; and Don't Knows.

All Topics are up for Discussion:
Both High Brow and Low -Constitutional; Gossip and Innuendo;
Family Members Old and New; Fashion to Infidelities.

You get the idea. ?

God Bless this Ship and All who Sail in Her! ?

FannyCornforth Fri 02-Jul-21 09:15:43

Yes - Ian Rank-Broadly

Calendargirl Fri 02-Jul-21 09:17:16

Just putting my two pennorth in, not that it’s anything to do with me, I would rather have seen a statue of Diana on her own, not with anonymous random children.

It’s obviously to emphasise her love of children, but not necessary, IMHO.

Anniebach Fri 02-Jul-21 09:19:31

Did she not care for anonymous random children ?

Calendargirl Fri 02-Jul-21 09:25:40

I’m sure she did Annie, but I still think she should have been on her own.

She also cared about AIDS sufferers, landmine victims, the homeless, but I suppose children were the more obvious accompaniment, if they wanted her accompanied.

Parsley3 Fri 02-Jul-21 09:26:12

I am assuming that Diana’s sons wanted a representation of the mother they knew and not the glamorous posed persona that we know from the photographs in the press. Perhaps that is why posters think that the statue doesn’t look like her.

FannyCornforth Fri 02-Jul-21 09:32:36

Why is she wearing such horrible, fussy, tight clothes?
Why not something a bit flowy and dynamic (there's a reason why classical sculptors favour robes)
Or a simple shift dress, like the ones that she favoured?
I agree Calendargirl, she should be on her own, no 'props'. There is far too much distraction and not enough 'Diana'.

Alegrias1 Fri 02-Jul-21 09:43:12

Why is she wearing such horrible, fussy, tight clothes?

GG13 posted a picture of her yesterday, she was wearing these exact clothes.

Anniebach Fri 02-Jul-21 09:48:40

It represents the woman she became not the 19 year old.

FannyCornforth Fri 02-Jul-21 09:58:11

Alegrias1

^Why is she wearing such horrible, fussy, tight clothes?^

GG13 posted a picture of her yesterday, she was wearing these exact clothes.

Yes, but he didn't have to use them.
It's all very literal to my mind.

"Here is a lady who was famous in the 1980s and liked kiddies..."

Anniebach Fri 02-Jul-21 10:10:35

What did you want Fanny ?

Callistemon Fri 02-Jul-21 10:13:34

Anniebach

It represents the woman she became not the 19 year old.

But she never became that old as represented by the statue.
She looks like a grim late middle aged woman.

She was only 36 when she died and, in all the pictures I've seen of her with any children, she has a glow and a compassion about her. She had a natural rapport with children.

FannyCornforth Fri 02-Jul-21 10:24:23

A beautiful, emotive, timeless work of art.
More emotion conveyed in her gift of a face (bonestrucure and classical features).
Graceful lines to highlight her beauty.
A touch of movement and dynamism to capture her vibrance.
There could be use of symbolic emblems too.
And certainly not that dark. I don't know anything about materials but I wouldn't have chosen that.

Yesterday I thought of our war memorial in Derby. I wish that I could post a picture or link.
Anyway, it's noteworthy in that it is the only war memorial in the UK that doesn't feature men of arms.
Instead it's a woman holding a child, representing the senseless loss of loved ones.
Its a thoughtful piece of public art.

(Sorry, that was in reply to Annie, I forgot to quote her)

Alegrias1 Fri 02-Jul-21 10:29:10

Anyway, it's noteworthy in that it is the only war memorial in the UK that doesn't feature men of arms.

Cupar War Memorial.

No men of arms.

FannyCornforth Fri 02-Jul-21 10:29:28

Anniebach

What did you want Fanny ?

Oh, and wings! wink

FannyCornforth Fri 02-Jul-21 10:31:41

Alegrias Sorry, I should have said a woman and child instead.
I should have known that someone (you smile) would jump on me!

Alegrias1 Fri 02-Jul-21 10:33:08

You know me Fanny wink

maddyone Fri 02-Jul-21 10:53:44

I don’t know much about sculpture but I’m not very keen on this depiction of Diana. I certainly don’t like the material used. I wonder if her sons like it? I guess they must.

Blossoming Fri 02-Jul-21 11:25:31

Anniebach

It represents a strong woman who did much to help children ,
not a glam blonde clutching her own children’s hands

Yes, well put.

Anniebach Fri 02-Jul-21 11:33:07

Thank you Blossoming seems everyone wanted shy Di in
a floating evening gown or a 19 year old children’s nanny .

She did much good work but seems she will remain known as
a glam blonde with two children.

Alegrias1 Fri 02-Jul-21 11:36:20

Hope you're sitting down Annie.

I agree with you.

FannyCornforth Fri 02-Jul-21 11:38:13

Anniebach

Thank you Blossoming seems everyone wanted shy Di in
a floating evening gown or a 19 year old children’s nanny .

She did much good work but seems she will remain known as
a glam blonde with two children.

That's certainly not what I was saying.

Jaxjacky Fri 02-Jul-21 11:44:55

I don’t like it as a piece of art whoever it was meant to portray.

Anniebach Fri 02-Jul-21 11:47:48

Alegrias. ? ☕️

Whatdayisit Fri 02-Jul-21 11:56:14

In the modern world are statues out of date?
Because we have so much visual of Diana, in this instance, in our brains anything would be disappointing.
Her clothes date her in the 80s - maybe that's the one her sons want to see her as. I had a belt like that from Dash!
I preferred her in the 90s casuals boldly walking through the landmines but i wasn't asked.
I would have liked her standing their in the dancing with John Travolta dress in a dancing pose!
The Prince's have possibly pigeonholed her in this as their mum and not the iconic rebellious woman of the world - it's what all our kids do to us!

Whatdayisit Fri 02-Jul-21 11:58:51

In the Hepworth Gallery i have seen dog shoe chews dangling on string labelled as art. I am not a fan of sculpture!
It's a similar result to the painting of Sir Winston that he hated! (As portrayed on The Crown)!

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