Seems we are not unlocking.

Alegrias I agree with you, although as I’m in England I know that the restrictions are slightly different. I feel desperately sorry for businesses who are still so badly affected by the current restrictions, it is particularly awful for them. One of my son in laws was put out of work instantly when the whole crisis began. He is an actor. Luckily the family have more than enough to live on so financially they’re not affected, but others are in a much worse position.

PippaZ the death rate is now very low the health service is not overrun

growstuff

You can also find your local region updated daily here:

docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1APtcBmI4JeTR0Ysufjavgg2gy4MBiHz0Hf9eKIp5BSo/preview#gid=1865138965

Very helpful, thank you.
It makes interesting reading, as holiday time is upon us maybe people from high transmission areas should consider where they are going. Especially if they’re travelling to a low incidence area.

growstuff

GrannyGravy13

In case anyone hadn’t noticed the Euros started last night, players along with physios, doctors, coaches, nutritionists etc., are travelling from stadium to stadium and in the next round country to country as will the fans following their teams progress throughout the competition.

If it’s OK and safe for them and for good measure I will include the G7 circus and all that entails it should be safe for us to go about our daily lives.

I went out this morning. There were hundreds of people going about their daily lives, most wearing masks, but that was all. What exactly do the current restrictions stop people from doing? I know there are a few things, but not that many.

I agree growstuff. We have been invaded - attacked on one front (mainly elderly+ affected worst). We have defended that front but the battle isn't over as our enemy is now attacking another (the young) and this at a time when our troups (the NHS) have not had time to recouperate.

Eventually, our enemy may integrate with the population but if that is the case will have to learn to live with it and that means changes - but we can and will live with that too.

Being positive does not mean talking in extremes - I am still stunned that the poor old SAGE people (yes, real, clever, helping us as best they can human beings) were called Marxist - just because a poster thought they were not being upbeat enough.

It not the time of the reality TV performer; it's the time for being pragmatic.

Some of our troops have fled, to New Zealand. Had enough of the stress in the NHS. Sadly, they’re mine, and I miss them.

rosie1959

PippaZ the death rate is now very low the health service is not overrun

That is not taking into account the state of those working in it. It would take far, far less for it to collapse in a third wave. It is also not taking into account the fact that we will be counting the dead from other causes in far greater numbers if we still cannot treat them.

If only people would accept hands face space ventilate as the new normal we could get back to a more ‘normal’ way of living. It’s a small price to pay for that. And yet some people are desperate for those measures to be stopped.

maddyone

Some of our troops have fled, to New Zealand. Had enough of the stress in the NHS. Sadly, they’re mine, and I miss them.

If we don't look after them we can't blame them maddyone.

I am so sorry this has hit you personally but I have to say, miss them though I do - and I can't tell you how much, I am glad my grandchildren, my son and my DiL are safely (comparatively) in Australia. It gives you an insight into how parents of the evacuees must have felt.

MayBee70

If only people would accept hands face space ventilate as the new normal we could get back to a more ‘normal’ way of living. It’s a small price to pay for that. And yet some people are desperate for those measures to be stopped.

Not desperate but I can empathise with business that is unable to function in profit with these rules in place
It is not a small price for them but the difference between continuing to trade or loosing their business

Goodness! So many posts to catch up on whilst I popped out for 10 minutes (ha ha, 1.5 hours), stuck in traffic jams as everyone rushes out before another lockdown.

Or perhaps it was before the ⚽️ at 1.15pm.

Whitewavemark2

janejudge quite a lot of puerile me,me,me about it seems.?

Oh dear, my post was me, me, me.
Or rather, expressing astonishment at the number of people out and about.

My earlier post wasn't all about me, though.

Biscuitmuncher

Lucca I'm not sure what the answer is but masks, lockdowns and vaccinations dont seem to be working because zero covid is the answer apparently and that's never going to happen

Well it would help if people accepted vaccinations, stuck to lockdown rules etc. Surely if you criticise actions you should have some idea if what would be better ?

Biscuitmuncher

Did anyone ever say that zero Covid is the answer to lockdown, masks and vaccinations?

It is here and possibly for the long-term future as are other viruses and we have to do our best to combat it, vaccinate and take precautions to reduce spread and severity so that we can live more normal lives.

I doubt we will eradicate it totally in the foreseeable future although we have managed to do that with smallpox and we are still striving to eradicate other diseases.
Like other viruses eg H1N1, traces will be with us in mutated form for a long time unless a miracle happens.

There are two reported cases of monkeypox in Wales, same household I hope that is contained!

If we don’t look after them we can’t blame them maddyone.

I absolutely agree with you on this Pippa. It was the unremitting stress and as GPs, they got such a lot of flack from the public. On one thread last year, I listed 15 different tasks GPs were engaged in, many additional to their usual duties, but it didn’t make any difference. Even Gransnetters were more than happy to criticise the GPs, who were actually working their socks off in their practices and at the Covid Hub.

I have just seen a clip of Theresa May in H of P this week saying that continued lockdowns and travel restrictions are lunacy I tend to agree with her.

Callistemon

Whitewavemark2

janejudge quite a lot of puerile me,me,me about it seems.?

Oh dear, my post was me, me, me.
Or rather, expressing astonishment at the number of people out and about.

My earlier post wasn't all about me, though.

It wasn’t pointing at anyone in particular? rather some comments you see throughout the country

Well anyway, we’re two fewer GPs now, and from what I’ve read,a substantial number of GPs have left for other countries during this pandemic. No doubt, the public will criticise the GPs and wonder why they can’t get an appointment now, preferably in the next ten minutes!

A friend said last week “In my local spa l now have to book a swimming and gym slot , always guaranteed a lane, gym, hot tub and sauna not overcrowded , must admit l rather like it!”

“You wont like it when the prices rise to sustain that” said another lady at the table, drily.

Very true Urmstongran all our local restaurants and bars have had to put up their prices to cover extra staff needed for table service and limited numbers of clientele at any given time.

Maddyone, there are good and bad GP's and I don't think we should hero worship them all as being good. I am pleased to say that at last my complaint that I have been let down badly by my GP surgery was upheld on Thursday.

I’m pleased to hear that Barmey, and no I don’t think we should hero worship GPs, but it is a fact that there far fewer of them than there were at the beginning of the pandemic. Why is that do you think? Please do answer my question because I really would like to know what the public thinks about diminishing numbers of GPs.

I think I have a little bit of a right to be upset about what’s happened. My daughter told me they would never have gone if it wasn’t for the unremitting stress caused by the pandemic. It’s my beloved girl who’s gone, and yes, I’m upset about it.

rosie1959

MayBee70

If only people would accept hands face space ventilate as the new normal we could get back to a more ‘normal’ way of living. It’s a small price to pay for that. And yet some people are desperate for those measures to be stopped.

Not desperate but I can empathise with business that is unable to function in profit with these rules in place
It is not a small price for them but the difference between continuing to trade or loosing their business

It is rosie and like everyone, I have sympathy. However, the answer may not be for us to rush so they can open. What I do feel is that if we can't then the government must look at ways to help them. If this is going to take longer than we would have hoped they will have to review who is on furlough, etc. and perhaps move the support to other areas.

GrannyGravy13

I have just seen a clip of Theresa May in H of P this week saying that continued lockdowns and travel restrictions are lunacy I tend to agree with her.

But no one intends them to continue forever. What a silly thing for her to say. We must work at, and I would say we are, increasing vaccination - it is our only way back to some sort of normality. However, until we see that as including the rest of the world we will keep finding ourselves restricted in what we can do safely. With an exponential rise, what would you suggest?

We know that the last wave happened when schools and universities went back and the same has happened this time and will until we recognise and strengthen the infection controls, as MayBee suggests, but particularly with older school children.

Exaggerated and extreme individual views don't help.

Urmstongran and GrannyGravy what did you expect? If we are lucky enough to be able to do these things then we must pay the proper rate. That was always going to be the case. Some posts seem to be incredibly self-centred.