What is so special about footballers ?

Casdon

I’m sure it was spontaneous support for him, which in normal times would be lovely to see, but the powers that be make the decisions. We don’t make the rules GrannyGravy13, so there’s no point in railing at them, it is what it is.

I know, just feeling sh*tty that I am a rule follower, perhaps it’s time for a personal rebellion ?

Each Euros team is in a bubble, so they are allowed to touch teammates, just not the opposition as I understand it! (Not that I’m an expert).

I get the antagonism, however these footballers and other ‘famous’ people are on camera, being televised and their every move scrutinised. We too have kept to the rules/advice, however you interpret it for the last 15 months, to the detriment of some of us. However, hands up, I forgot to put my mask on in a local shop for 5 minutes last week, I out of habit had one puff on my vape inside our local pub on Friday and I didn’t wash my hands when I bought the bin in last Thursday. As we open up a little, we get lax, or at least I do, for those in bubbles it must be harder to retain their discipline. Not an excuse for out and out ‘disobedience’, but, hopefully, we’re still human.

GG13, I am totally with you on this one. So many of us have made huge sacrifices and have not seen or hugged our closest loved ones, our sons and daughters and grandchildren.

So yes (and I will admit I am not a football supporter, but it makes no difference) I am really annoyed about this too. Makes a mockery!

The footballers have been hugging each other from the start, even when they were asked to stop. Even Marcus Rashford, who everybody agrees is the nearest thing we've got to a secular saint.

I've been asking the same question. I've just returned from a holiday, self catering cottage with my daughter We walked for miles but the day after I got home I was pinged by test and trace and told to self isolate for 7 days as I had been in the vicinity of someone who tested positive. I had been out to eat and checked into 4 places on the app all socially distanced. I definately didn't hug anyone and am doubly vaccinated so why do I have to isolate. The idea that we could self test everyday instead is only a trial at the moment and subject to approval by the chief medical officer. I too have had to cancel planned meetings with friends. It doesn't seem logical to me.

Gymstagran. There is no logic.
It seems if you kick a ball, hit a ball, ride a horse the rules are different . ?

If the players really are in a bubble, then how did that guy get Covid?

SueDonim

If the players really are in a bubble, then how did that guy get Covid?

I wondered that too.

The 3 lads are all at Chelsea and comparatively young (20, 22, 24). Apparently they stood in the tunnel after the match chatting for almost half an hour. The tunnel could probably be considered 'indoors'.

What I can’t understand, Sturgeon was murmuring about English/British visitors to Scotland having to self isolate on visiting Scotland, but a Scot can possibly infect team mates and everyone else, but apart from two English players, non of those need to self isolate, don’t tell me there was no hugging and back clapping in the changing room. Who needs independence one rule for Scots another for the rest of us. If I go to a restaurant and someone two tables away Tests positive, I am notified to self isolate. Testing daily does not stop the spread.

Actually they are running pilot studies in schools at the moment to test that concept.

GrannyGravy13

Totally ridiculous !!

If one child in a bubble of three classes tests positive all three classes in that bubble are sent home to self isolate.

If I get bleeped by the Covid app, because someone in the pub garden I was in tests positive, I have to isolate.

I am a football fan, but this makes a complete mockery of Covid restrictions, obviously both teams need to isolate.

It should be the same for all of the population regardless of profession, including the G7 shenanigans.

Spot on! When the rules seem to be relaxed depending on who you are, a lot of people are going to throw caution to the winds and do what they want.

Casdon

According to the news They are all tested regularly, but Mount and Chilwell hugged Gilmour straight after the match, whilst still on the pitch, that’s why they are self isolating.

Mason, Chigwell and Gilmour all play for Chelsea so that's probably the reason for the hug amongst team mates BUT it went against the rules for their Euro bubble and they are now paying the price.

I don’t care who plays with who to be honest.

The Scotland team travelled to the game on the team bus, changed pre-match in the changing room, spent half-time in the changing room, showered and changed in same changing room post match and then travelled on the same bus back to their hotel, all these are inside

Mr.Gilmour hugged players from his own team, why are they not isolating?

I will add to those who think this is anti-Scots, that I would be posting the same if it were the England, Welsh or Croatian Team.

Now it seems that the two English footballers who were told to isolate may be allowed to play tonight if they test negative.
DD has tested negative twice but still has to isolate for another 5 days.

There was an MP (MSP?) on Radio Scotland this morning talking about this. He's also a medical doctor, sorry I didn't hear it all or catch his name. The on-pitch hugs are of short duration and are outside, so are classed as fleeting contact. The reason the England players have to isolate is that they spent 20 minutes chatting with Gilmour in the tunnel, which is classed as inside, and that is classed as close contact. I didn't hear him say anything about how Gilmour could have caught it.

Just as an aside; nobody is accusing anybody of being anti-Scottish on this thread, in fact some of the posters trying to understand what's going on are Scottish. Its really tiresome, and a little bit patronising and defensive, to tell us that you're not being anti-Scottish. Almost as bad as suggesting NS "murmurs" () about something she has not even said.

Alegrias1 I am sorry if you think the remarks in my last paragraph are tiresome and a little bit patronising and defensive

I was trying to point out that it’s the principals involved not the team.

As for spending time in the tunnel it’s open to the elements one end and leads to a wide corridor the other, far more ventilation than a changing room or team bus.

Yes, I do find it tiresome and all the other things GG13. Did any us feel the need to say that we weren't being anti-English about the 2 lads who are self isolating?

As for the tunnel remarks, take it up with the medical people. Apparently they think differently to you, so you'll have to enlighten them.

At grassroots level we had strict instructions from the FA that our players should not get into huddles, no hugging after goal scoring, no changing bibs, no changing rooms to be used, full PPE for first aides. So we tell our players who then see top players, who are paid a fortune, doing all of those things! So called elite footballers are regularly tested several times a week but even so we have been surprised there have not been more cases. There is big money at the top particularly with lucrative TV showings and that is doing the talking.

I was being polite, not tiresome but hey-ho maybe your ideas of politeness are different?

All most unfortunate. Nobody's fault. I imagine the 2 English players will play. Maybe. Possibly. Probably. Shame about Billy. He must be devastated.

Its not polite to tell people that you are not being discriminatory against them. Just don't discriminate against them or expect them to see discrimination every time their nationality is mentioned. That's discrimination.

Apparently Talullah Billy is asymptomatic, which is good, but he must be so upset.

Apparently it was because they had a long chat together (more than 15 minutes) after the match and in the tunnel which is considered to be indoors. If they hadn’t done that it wouldn’t have been a problem.

You are quite right , everyone he came into contact with should be isolating and being tested but then UEFA threatened to stop London holding the final if VIPs had to be quarantined, which is utterly disgraceful but worse, they won and vips will not have to quarantine, seems 1 rule for us and 1 rule for anyone considered elite, or just footballers