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Isn’t it time social media was brought under control - dreadful abuse after England football defeat.

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25Avalon Mon 12-Jul-21 09:26:25

Following England’s narrow defeat yesterday evening Rashford, Sancho and Saka were subjected to dreadful racist abuse on social media yesterday evening. This is happening in all walks of life where cowardly people go online to vent their spleen anonymously on others. Isn’t it time something was done to bring social media under control?

lavenderzen Mon 12-Jul-21 09:35:47

Yes

Callistemon Mon 12-Jul-21 09:37:38

Yes

timetogo2016 Mon 12-Jul-21 09:41:07

Yes,if GNHQ can do it all social media can.

Mollygo Mon 12-Jul-21 09:41:36

Yes

Lucca Mon 12-Jul-21 09:42:26

I’ve just had a long call from my son in Sydney saying exactly this. Also saying how disgusted he was at the behaviour of some English fans generally but more concerned of course with the hideous hideous racist abuse. Who are these people,??? But twitter, Facebook etc need to get their act together and be held accountable.
Sadly, money talks.

growstuff Mon 12-Jul-21 09:48:51

One of these people has been identified as an employee of a well-known estate agent. I'm not going to screenshot what he posted because it's vile. I hope he's sacked. What he posted would probably justify prosecution.

Alegrias1 Mon 12-Jul-21 09:49:40

Facebook (and probably the others) have hordes of people reviewing "unacceptable" content. Its so bad that some of them only stick with the job for short periods because they can't stand it.

What more should they do?

And before you answer, recall how many people on GN complain loudly when their posts are deleted because their "free speech" is being eroded. Should GN be held accountable for them?

25Avalon Mon 12-Jul-21 10:01:21

They cancelled Trump’s account. It is not free speech to be vile and abusive. Trolling and online bullying has resulted in mental health issues for many, some of whom have self harmed or even committed suicide as a consequence. It needs to be brought under control. Twitter and Facebook need to be more accountable. There needs to be governance.

Whitewavemark2 Mon 12-Jul-21 10:06:49

Time those spouting such vile hate were controlled. It is blaming the messenger not the message.

GrannyGravy13 Mon 12-Jul-21 10:12:23

Disgusting, they are not football fans I am sorry to say they are the dregs of society

Let’s not let the idiots take the light away from the young England Team, upwards and onwards to the World Cup 2022.

(A whole different thread needed for Qatar World Cup, the abuse of immigrant workers and so many deaths to build the Stadia in a Country not known for equality)

Lin52 Mon 12-Jul-21 10:13:59

Yes social media do need to stop this . Absolutely disgusting racial abuse to young men who had done their best. Their distraught faces after not being able to shoot home was enough to bring me to tears.

theworriedwell Mon 12-Jul-21 10:17:19

Also the people forcing their way into Wembley without tickets. They could have caused a serious accident if someone had fallen, the knock on effects could have resulted in serious injury or even deaths. I hope they were arrested.

Alegrias1 Mon 12-Jul-21 10:17:54

I'm with WWM2 Serious question.

How do you all propose Social Media do this?

They delete offensive posts, they suspend accounts, they report the worst offenders to the authorities.

What else should they do?

Please bear your answer in mind next time a GNer gets banned from this platform and everyone wants them back.

25Avalon Mon 12-Jul-21 10:18:58

GG13 there are other threads on the football game. This social media abuse is rife across all society, not just football, and it is social media as a whole that I find alarming.

growstuff Mon 12-Jul-21 10:19:19

I doubt if Facebook or Twitter can be anything other than reactive, apart from well-known people like Trump. For all anyone knows, Trump already has hundreds of aliases. There are actually worse social media platforms than Twitter and Facebook. Some of them even boast about allowing uncensored "free speech".

I think the important thing is that people stand up to it and let themselves be counted. I've been following Darren Grimes this morning (if you don't already know, he's a well-known twerp), who made derogatory, racist comments and who has been criticised and mocked by hundreds. Such losers will probably always be amongst us.

The important thing is that this country regains some moral standards, which I feel have sadly slipped.

Alegrias1 Mon 12-Jul-21 10:21:35

growstuff ?

One of my US FB friends joined Parler. Not a friend any more.

GrannyGravy13 Mon 12-Jul-21 10:26:30

Gareth Southgate has just said at the press conference this morning that a fair few of the accounts spouting racist abuse have been tracked to be abroad.

No excuse, I agree with Alegrias1 all the social media platforms can do is suspend the accounts of these people, unfortunately they will be up and running under a different name as soon as.

GrannyGravy13 Mon 12-Jul-21 10:27:42

Alegrias1 parler is an odd thing, I have resisted looking at it so I can only go on anecdotal reports.

25Avalon Mon 12-Jul-21 10:28:12

Alegrias I take on board what you are saying. It is a massive problem. There are libel and slander laws where the originator is easily identifiable. On Social Media abusers seem to think they are protected by anonymity. Not only that they can soon send things viral which makes things even worse for their victim. At least with the football plenty have tweeted their support. But what if you are a youngster at school being victimised in this way?

It is a problem for society.

GrannyGravy13 Mon 12-Jul-21 10:38:12

25Avalon it’s definitely a problem with school bullying on line. It used to be that the youngsters home/bedroom were safe from these bullying cowards
Nowadays the abuse continues online, I wish those being bullied could be strong enough emotionally not to look online, unfortunately several children have taken their lives due to cyber and school bullying.

Gwyneth Mon 12-Jul-21 10:41:10

What is people boycotted social media? Am only throwing the question out to see what posters think. If the people who post such abuse knew that their vile posts were not getting a response would they stop?

Beswitched Mon 12-Jul-21 10:48:04

GrannyGravy13

25Avalon it’s definitely a problem with school bullying on line. It used to be that the youngsters home/bedroom were safe from these bullying cowards
Nowadays the abuse continues online, I wish those being bullied could be strong enough emotionally not to look online, unfortunately several children have taken their lives due to cyber and school bullying.

Yes and in many cases the children who drove the unfortunate victim to suicide appear to feel no remorse whatsoever. I find that very frightening.

JaneJudge Mon 12-Jul-21 10:48:42

I have not seen anything but how awful sad and of course there needs to be better regulation of the laws surrounding discrimination but not just on social media, as a whole.

Doodledog Mon 12-Jul-21 10:51:12

I doubt it, Gwyneth. They would form an echo chamber, as their fellow racists wouldn't join the boycott.

I haven't seen any of it (and don't want to), but I can imagine, and it sickens me. Those boys are so young, and must feel bad enough today without having to know about that sort of thing.

I think that a massive effort should be put into finding the people doing it, and that they should be punished. The moron who attacked Chris Whitty was named, shamed and sacked - maybe that sort of thing would work, so long as they didn't become 'heroes' to their own kind of mouth-breathing pondlife. I know it's not easy, but it's perfectly possible to make posting racist abuse a crime. What is 'abuse' must already have been defined in law, so we could use that definition as a baseline.

I am uneasy about limiting free speech online, and about people being traced by government agencies. I also accept that it is the thin end of a wedge that opens the door, but this needs to be stamped out, as do other forms of trolling, doxxing and dragging that make people's lives miserable.