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MissAdventure Sat 18-Sept-21 19:38:40

What do you think of a child missing 3 days of school in order to have a holiday?
I am usually an a absolute stickler for "the rules" but in this instance, I think I may have to break them.

Milliedog Mon 20-Sept-21 17:02:29

People are correct when they say that education isn't confined to the classroom. However, the child will miss the lessons his classmates will do in the classroom. Will you expect his teacher to help him catch up what he's missed on the 3 days in her lunch time or breaks? Or will you be paying for extra out of school tuition for him? Or will you be happy that he may miss out on some 'bedrock' work which will mean he will find future work more difficult? This sounds harsh but I'm an ex teacher.... I would have loved to have had cheap holidays or gone on holiday with older family members in term time.

Sueki44 Mon 20-Sept-21 17:03:39

Sorry, totally against it. The school has virtually no discretion over granting such leave( or the governors). The suggestion that you should say that the child was ‘ pinged’ is a dreadful idea….what an example to set to a child. Whoever brought up training days is totally off the mark, they are clearly mandated on the school’s yearly timetable and should not come as any surprise. I am absolutely fed up with parents not backing schools, whether it be over uniform, hairstyles or holidays. You are aware that those days have to be recorded as truancies in the school’s published records because they will be unauthorised?

MissAdventure Mon 20-Sept-21 17:09:11

It's fine.
I don't expect w everyone to think it's a wonderful idea.
I just asked for opinions, and I thank you for yours.

JaneJudge Mon 20-Sept-21 17:12:06

It on the gransnet daily email MissA, so you are going to get people just commenting on the original post. I hope you are okay. Can't you say he needs to get away because of your bloody neighbour?

MissAdventure Mon 20-Sept-21 17:14:26

Milliedog

People are correct when they say that education isn't confined to the classroom. However, the child will miss the lessons his classmates will do in the classroom. Will you expect his teacher to help him catch up what he's missed on the 3 days in her lunch time or breaks? Or will you be paying for extra out of school tuition for him? Or will you be happy that he may miss out on some 'bedrock' work which will mean he will find future work more difficult? This sounds harsh but I'm an ex teacher.... I would have loved to have had cheap holidays or gone on holiday with older family members in term time.

I think that is my business really, don't you?

MissAdventure Mon 20-Sept-21 17:19:17

JaneJudge

It on the gransnet daily email MissA, so you are going to get people just commenting on the original post. I hope you are okay. Can't you say he needs to get away because of your bloody neighbour?

I quite expected that it would be.
My fault for putting it out on a public site, but the interest in our grieving process does seem extend to it being put onto twitter, Facebook and elsewhere.
A cautionary note for others, I suppose.

JaneJudge Mon 20-Sept-21 17:20:44

Oh it isn't? sad I hope you are okay x

MissAdventure Mon 20-Sept-21 17:21:38

My blooming fingers have minds of their own today.
Putting in random letters, and changing words. blush

MissAdventure Mon 20-Sept-21 17:23:14

I hope it isnt on the other sites, but if it is? My own fault.
It has happened before (and they refused to take it down!)

GrannyGravy13 Mon 20-Sept-21 17:26:00

It’s three days the GC is going to be spending with his big brother. I hope they have a fabulous time.

If only the teachers were so concerned about missed lesson time during the pandemic, some were but equally some were not.

effalump Mon 20-Sept-21 17:26:20

After the way schools have treated kids and families I would have said "I'm informing you we will be taking three days out of school. I'm not asking!"

silverlining48 Mon 20-Sept-21 17:29:22

I think you know what is best for your gs MissA. Most who are aware of the special circumstances support you. Those who aren’t would be more understanding if they knew the back story.

You will have carefully weighed issues and three days is going to make little difference to a bright and able boy who really does need to spend time with his older brother. X

MissAdventure Mon 20-Sept-21 17:37:06

smile
I can only try to do what I think is best.
Hopefully I'll get it mostly right.
I do appreciate all of your opinions though.

JTelles7 Mon 20-Sept-21 17:38:15

If you want to take the child out of school and he misses lessons then you must not expect teachers to help him catch up. Get him a private tutor. If you can’t get him a tutor then should he be left to struggle in classes. You need to think through the consequences of your action. Parents must not bleet having taken their children out of school and then demand teachers pick up the slack they created.

MissAdventure Mon 20-Sept-21 17:39:28

I'm not the type to bleat, luckily. smile

Hetty58 Mon 20-Sept-21 17:59:10

btw - yes, I do think it's funny - and no, I wouldn't tell them to lie. Teachers (including me) are generally understanding - but have to follow the rules. (The schools's reputation is paramount.) We do know who's been on holiday - and a whole wealth of embarrassing family secrets too!

Some children catch all the coughs and colds going - so are often absent. Others attend nearly every day. I've never noticed any correlation between attendance and achievement.

I did feel very sorry for the parents who were fined (twice, both mother and father) when they asked, were refused, but still took two children abroad for a family wedding. The system just isn't fair.

Lucca Mon 20-Sept-21 18:09:59

JTelles7

If you want to take the child out of school and he misses lessons then you must not expect teachers to help him catch up. Get him a private tutor. If you can’t get him a tutor then should he be left to struggle in classes. You need to think through the consequences of your action. Parents must not bleet having taken their children out of school and then demand teachers pick up the slack they created.

A private tutor for 3 days missed lessons.??? Are you for real ?

Hithere Mon 20-Sept-21 18:13:02

Jtelles7 is right.

It is not the 3 days, it is how fast student can catch up without expecting the teacher and class to adapt and compensate

Janiepops Mon 20-Sept-21 18:13:11

In 20, 30, 40 years from now, 3 missed days will be minuscule! my 6 kids had more time off than that for appendicitis, hernias, fevers, tumours,chicken pox, tons of stuff! They all went to Uni, all qualified as Accountants, consultants, I.T, blah de blah….. your GS won’t even remember in 20 years, he’ll easily catch up! But bonding with brother is MASSIVELY important for his future life, bonding/ fighting/arguing/sharing. Making memories is vital for shared experiences. Shared grieving can be healing.My sons constantly talk of “ Do you remember such and such….’ Shared memories are comforting.Let him go, to love, to build better bonds, this time next year it’ll mean nothing, those that object need to “walk a mile in your shoes”. Battle on Grandma, you deserve a medal!

Lucca Mon 20-Sept-21 18:13:22

Milliedog

People are correct when they say that education isn't confined to the classroom. However, the child will miss the lessons his classmates will do in the classroom. Will you expect his teacher to help him catch up what he's missed on the 3 days in her lunch time or breaks? Or will you be paying for extra out of school tuition for him? Or will you be happy that he may miss out on some 'bedrock' work which will mean he will find future work more difficult? This sounds harsh but I'm an ex teacher.... I would have loved to have had cheap holidays or gone on holiday with older family members in term time.

I’m an ex teacher too .
Have you read the thread ??.?
IT IS THREE DAYS
THE CHILD IS VERY BRIGHT
Ha e you read the thread ???

I’m on the point of using some bad language.m

MissAdventure Mon 20-Sept-21 18:19:28

grin

Lucca Mon 20-Sept-21 18:24:58

Hithere

Jtelles7 is right.

It is not the 3 days, it is how fast student can catch up without expecting the teacher and class to adapt and compensate

A bright child does not expect or need the teacher class to adapt if three days are missed. That is utter nonsense.

MissAdventure Mon 20-Sept-21 18:29:26

He has never needed any extra attention or help before, through things far more than 3 days off school.
He did the best of year in his sats; despite the timing.

Hetty58 Mon 20-Sept-21 18:44:20

Of course he'll be fine. I'm just amazed at some of the comments!

MissAdventure Mon 20-Sept-21 18:54:20

I was expecting a mixed bag of responses.
I wasn't wrong there!