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MissAdventure Sat 18-Sept-21 19:38:40

What do you think of a child missing 3 days of school in order to have a holiday?
I am usually an a absolute stickler for "the rules" but in this instance, I think I may have to break them.

V3ra Mon 20-Sept-21 18:58:09

MissAdventure

I could say a whole lot about goes unconcerned the teachers were when we really needed support, but I won't.

This is so sad, and it sounds like the school are more concerned with covering their backs with the authorities rather than caring for the "whole child."

Your two grandsons are each others' future. If they're ready to start venturing out into the world together and start consolidating their relationship it needs doing now.
You're very wise to take a step back and support them both. There is more to this than just a holiday.

sazz1 Mon 20-Sept-21 19:13:28

My DGC missed so much time in primary school that their attendance was almost 50%. This was due to chronic asthma, needing repeated hospital stays and oxygen due to pneumonia and collapsed lungs during episodes. School called in son and DIL who provided hospital and GP letters as proof. Now at senior school yr 9 they are top of their year in physics and maths. Asthma is better controlled with daily medication so only one episode a year now.
So if the child is very intelligent I wouldn't worry about 3 days OP.
Let him enjoy his brother's company.

Chewbacca Mon 20-Sept-21 19:18:56

It is not the 3 days, it is how fast student can catch up without expecting the teacher and class to adapt and compensate

Absolute tosh! MissAdventure has said, several times, that her GS is very bright, academically ahead of his peer group and will easily catch up anything he misses. She isn't asking a teacher to to do any adapting or compensating, the boy is perfectly capable of catching up himself.

As for JTelles7's comment Get him a private tutor. If you can’t get him a tutor then should he be left to struggle in classes. You need to think through the consequences of your action. Parents must not bleet having taken their children out of school and then demand teachers pick up the slack they created. I think you missed a few English Comprehension lessons yourself. You've clearly missed relevant and salient information provided in the OP, and her subsequent posts, but decided to post your rather unpleasant judgemental post anyway.

Tell them he's self isolating *MissAdventure, they'll thank you for keeping him off school!

MissAdventure Mon 20-Sept-21 19:22:31

I think I may have to self isolate after some of the responses in this thread! grin

silverlining48 Mon 20-Sept-21 19:28:15

Indeed MissA brewcupcakehmmflowers

Callistemon Mon 20-Sept-21 19:41:08

I remember missing 3 weeks of school with Asian flu at the same age, MissA - because I caught it after everyone else, they'd all gone back and lessons continued for them.

No private tuition, extra lessons, BBC Bitesize or help in those days so I just caught up as best I could (I think I borrowed someone else's notes and copied them up).
I seemed to pass all my exams somehow.

Hithere Mon 20-Sept-21 19:52:39

Comparing missing school decades ago is apples and oranges.

Callistemon Mon 20-Sept-21 19:55:51

Yes, I was comparing 3 days with 3 weeks too!! Indefensible.

He'll be fine, MissA

It's a money-spinner too - fines raise £millions

Callistemon Mon 20-Sept-21 19:57:05

Hithere

Comparing missing school decades ago is apples and oranges.

I do realise that as there was no help in those extremely faraway days but there is so much these days with the internet.

Lucca Mon 20-Sept-21 20:19:34

Hithere

Comparing missing school decades ago is apples and oranges.

Irrelevant comment. Suggesting that student might expect a class to be disrupted to help him catch up 3 days work(or indeed a week or three) is completely ridiculous . That just does NOT happen .

Chewbacca Mon 20-Sept-21 20:21:35

Comparing missing school decades ago is apples and oranges. And your point is......?

Harris27 Mon 20-Sept-21 20:21:43

3 days not going to harm him.

icanhandthemback Mon 20-Sept-21 20:22:26

As an ex-teacher and not knowing the fully back story except what I've read on this thread, I would say the mental health wellbeing will far outweigh whatever he will learn in school in those 3 days that he is not in school, especially as a bright pupil. It is a nonsense to say that is just another burden for the teacher. The amount kids learn at that age in 3 days by the time you have breaks taken out, moving from class to class, getting the kids settled down, etc, is actually quite small. Most decent schools have a lot of the teaching on the children's learning space so it would be perfectly possible to avoid putting any pressure on the teacher and other children are usually happy to help each other. One thing I wouldn't do is to encourage a child to lie. I wouldn't discuss the "rule breaking" with them either so the boundaries aren't blurred.
We had a similar circumstance when we lost our daughter. One school was understanding, the other said no way to the holiday our family had bought for us so we could heal together. I just wrote and told them that I was sorry but in these circumstances we were going. The children had to keep a diary, do currency changes, they learned to swim and we went to museums. The child whose school refused learned more in that time away than he ever would have in school; quite frankly they failed him at every step but that is an entirely different story.
I hope your Grandson has a lovely, bonding time.

silverlining48 Mon 20-Sept-21 20:29:59

Absolutely agree Ican. So very sorry for your loss, you will better understand the situation more than most.

welbeck Mon 20-Sept-21 20:32:14

so what, pay the fine. why are people so scared of a fine.
that wouldn't put me off, if i had the money to pay the fine.
the boy's well-being is more important.

Urmstongran Mon 20-Sept-21 20:39:15

Another here who votes you definitely let him go away on holiday with his brother MissA.

You might feel a bit norty about it at present but you won’t when he’s been. I think as he’s now in senior school, he’s not with the teachers from juniors who were with him at the time the bad thing happened and maybe that’s why they dont empathise the same?

You’ve made your mind up really. I think it’s just your conscience wrestling with your decision. Sod it. Get your purse out.

MissAdventure Mon 20-Sept-21 20:41:03

I tend to agree.
Everybody talks about mental health and self care, but a child has to rely on someone else to oversee that everything is fine.
And I know, for myself, that sometimes things aren't.

I wouldn't say I have mental health problems, but sometimes it's such a heavy burden to carry around.

I'm sure it's the same for children too.

MissAdventure Mon 20-Sept-21 20:46:29

There was bugger all empathy from the teachers when it happened Urms.
They made the whole situation 100 times worse, in every conceivable way, which has shown me that sometimes you have to put your loved ones before "the school, the rules, what's expected"

welbeck Mon 20-Sept-21 20:54:53

many schools now are little more than crammers, with logo-ed branded clothing advertising their 'sponsors'.
couldn't care less about real education or development, just league tables, let alone the welfare of the child.
grind them down, until every whiff of creativity or individuality is obliterated.
OP, any chance of changing schools ?
of course let him go

Urmstongran Mon 20-Sept-21 20:55:19

That’s shocking MissA. I didn’t know. Your poor grandson - I can’t imagine his pain and anguish. And yours at what you all had to go through.

I think you’re pretty amazing by the way. One of my favourite posters. Your one-liners are stellar.

Hope your convalescence brings you strength and better health soon. Look after yourself. x

Sweetpeasue Mon 20-Sept-21 21:02:54

I can't believe some of the responses here MissA!
Ican'smessage very thoughtful and reasonable.
Let the poor lad have a few dys away his brother.
Look after yourself too MissA.
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Sweetpeasue Mon 20-Sept-21 21:03:18

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MissAdventure Mon 20-Sept-21 21:07:36

Oh, you're nearly all very kind.
Thank you.
I really appreciate you taking the time to respond, and being so understanding.

Jillybird Mon 20-Sept-21 21:08:46

Message withdrawn at poster's request.

win Mon 20-Sept-21 22:00:03

Definitely let him go and just pay the fine, the school is being unreasonable but have to stick to their rules or they would all be doing it. Hope the brothers have a lovely time irritating each other LOL