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Do you dislike people who disagree with you?

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VioletSky Sun 17-Oct-21 22:29:19

Do you dislike people whose values or views don't align with yours?

Or do you dislike people purely because of how they speak to you, differences of opinion aside?

Answering my own question:

I tend to look at people more for what we do have in common and think, oh well we agree on this topic and they had interesting contributions or they gave some lovely comforting advice on that topic so generally won't be rude first and I do work hard not to be rude at all lol.

Blondiescot Mon 18-Oct-21 19:19:47

Neen

We all behave the way we do and have the beliefs we do for a reason. Diversity is acceptance and respecting others who may have different views to you . It doesn't mean you can't be friends . It's ok to not get someone else's point if view. It's not your journey to understand.

But surely there is a line to be drawn there? I can respect that people have different views on a whole range of subjects, for example, but I could never be 'friends' with someone who was an out-and-out bigot - be it racist, sexist, homophobic or whatever.

GagaJo Mon 18-Oct-21 20:28:08

Exactly Blondiescot.

grannyactivist Mon 18-Oct-21 23:44:46

As a child I heard bigoted views and saw for myself that ‘like calls to like’. By the time I was sixteen I was already openly challenging racist opinions - I wrote a letter that was published in the local paper and they included my name and address - and I was threatened for it, as were my (racist) grandparents with whom I was living at the time.

It scared me hugely, but it also showed me that expressing my opinions in a confrontational way was going to have the opposite effect to the one I was looking for, people just came out fighting. So I switched tack and simply began asking questions about why people had e.g. racist views, then very gently (I was still a bit frightened) posing alternative ideas.

To be honest I’ve been challenged right back many times about my own views - especially in the realms of politics and faith/religion - and because of that I’ve done some adapting of my own.

Doodledog Tue 19-Oct-21 01:57:32

That’s the thing, isn’t it - it is possible to be bigoted whilst thinking you are fighting bigotry. Someone disagreeing with you (generic ‘you’, not anyone in particular) does not mean that they are a bigot, although of course they may be. An outsider might feel that both parties are bigoted in their own way.

I agree that asking why people feel as they do is more interesting than just arguing the toss, but many bigots don’t really know the answer, so refuse to engage or get angry.

It’s a shame, as the inability to discuss without anger is behind many of the divisions that bedevil much of society just now.

JaneJudge Tue 19-Oct-21 07:50:58

I know exactly what you mean Doodledog and can't articulate it any better smile

nanna8 Tue 19-Oct-21 08:03:18

It is harder online when you can’t see facial expressions or body language. I have several friends who have very different views on politics and religion in real life. Doodlebug you are right in what you say about bigoted anti bigots, there are a few around. I guess online if I disagree deeply with someone I will say so but then tend to avoid them if it continues on and on because they won’t change, I won’t change, what’s the point?

Galaxy Tue 19-Oct-21 08:17:31

Yes the anti racists with their racism of low expectations. The homophobia of 'oh my God a gay man who votes tory', bigotry is I am afraid rarely as simple as 'the far right'.

VioletSky Tue 19-Oct-21 08:24:41

Those with extreme views have always been a loud, vocal minority who actually cause damage to good causes.

One of my sons went to an all boys school and used to show me the videos they passed about with extreme feminist views and told Mr how warped their view of feminism was and it made me so angry the damage it was doing.

lemongrove Tue 19-Oct-21 08:42:57

Galaxy

Yes the anti racists with their racism of low expectations. The homophobia of 'oh my God a gay man who votes tory', bigotry is I am afraid rarely as simple as 'the far right'.

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Exactly ....it’s not simple at all.
As for those people who are proud to say they cut anyone out of their life because they disagree with their views.....it’s a wonder they have any friends at all.
In real life am sure we all have friends, often quite good friends, or colleagues or neighbours who have certain views we don’t like, but we take them as a ‘all round person’ and don’t expect them to be saintly.
We used to have some friends ( they moved to OZ) who would only stay at Christian hotels, and attend Christian music festivals and refused to mix in any other company except Christian ones.I always thought they were losing so much in not having friends of different faiths ( or no faith) simply because they thought the best company had to have a strong Christian faith, how wrong they were.
We need to mix with and talk to all kinds of people with all kind of views, it’s better for us.
I don’t know where all this ‘they have different politics to me therefore they are inferior and wrong and I would never want their company’ comes from.Even MP’s of different Parties can come together and be friendly.It must be something fairly new and linked to social media, because we have friends of all different political persuasions and a few who have none and aren’t interested in politics much ( except to moan about whatever government is in power, in the time honoured way!)
If you move in a narrow circle then your views become more narrow.

Larsonsmum Tue 19-Oct-21 10:32:48

No, absolutely not.

greenlady102 Tue 19-Oct-21 10:39:00

It depends....I wouldn't say I dislike but I do dismiss people whose views are palpably stupid (microchips in covid vaccine) and I dislike people who hold certain nasty views that I disagree with...usually because their views are cruel and/or abusive.

tictacnana Tue 19-Oct-21 10:47:35

I tend not to like people who spout rubbish that they think ‘bigs them up’ or causes disagreement .My sister and brother in law are like this and I find it both annoying and sad so I tend to ignore most of what they say rather than contribute to the friction that they so obviously relish.

LeeN137 Tue 19-Oct-21 10:49:04

No, I don't dislike people just because of their views - they're as entitled to them as I am to mine. However, I will try to avoid being in an (in)appropriate situation with them.

Tooting29 Tue 19-Oct-21 10:50:09

I'm pretty tolerant of different views and tend to dislike people based on how I am treated by them, rather than the views they hold. People who lie to me or about me are top of my list.

Secondwind Tue 19-Oct-21 10:51:23

You’ve made me think, VioletSky.
I only know the political views of one couple in my small group of close friends. If someone had views that were offensive to me, I wouldn’t have much to do with them rather than actively dislike them.

Alioop Tue 19-Oct-21 10:55:56

I listen to people's views, but sometimes I feel I have speak up when I don't agree. I was told by a friend the other day that I like a good argument after telling him about a conversation I had with another dog walker about Covid vaccinations. I wasn't rude, but I had a good mutter to myself when I left him. I definitely wouldn't of called it an argument, we just had different views on it.

hicaz46 Tue 19-Oct-21 10:58:35

I don’t dislike people who have different views to me. My partner is a Christian, loves the royal family and is into jolly Motown music. I am an atheist, have no interest in royal family and am into the Stones and Leonard Cohen. I also have a very good friend who is a church going Christian and is a Tory so different to me, but in both cases we have enough in common to get on very well.

H1954 Tue 19-Oct-21 11:03:01

Difference of opinion defined nes us as individuals surely? Whilst I acknowledge and accept the point of view of others I wouldn't fall out with a friend based simply on a difference of opinion on the small things in life or politics or lifestyles etc. However,anyone who tries to ram their values and opinion down my throat completely disregarding my values and beliefs is not welcome in my life. Got to draw the line somewhere haven't we?

Amalegra Tue 19-Oct-21 11:10:00

The trick is not to take it personally when people hold opposing views! I was brought up in a household where there were frequent debates/arguments. My father took it personally when I disagreed and could be quite insulting and nasty. I tried not to flare up back, even though some of his reasoning was just plain crazy and he would misrepresent facts (ie lie) to suit his argument. So I learned the hard way! Now there are several people with whom I disagree, some close family members too! It can mildly irritate, especially when the ‘facts’ quoted are plainly untrue or one sided. However unless it was something serious, as others here have stated, I would not let it affect my regard for them. We are all different, after all and, at present, free speech is a democratic right. I say ‘at present’ as I think there are minorities in this society who would like to shut down open debate entirely and we simply must not let them.

Sharina Tue 19-Oct-21 11:10:33

Sometimes. Politically, I’m ok. I’m friends with anti vaxxers, which is challenging. Racism, I couldn’t deal with. I think if a person has extreme views intend to avoid them, anyway

VioletSky Tue 19-Oct-21 11:11:03

Honestly I hate arguments and I get really uncomfortable. I've never found a solid way to counter if my words are twisted or words are put in my mouth.

I think it's often common practise to assume that anyone on the opposite viewpoint must hold all the opinions of everyone belonging to that side of the argument.

To counter that I do try to make it clear what points I do and don't agree with but it doesn't always make any difference.

tickingbird Tue 19-Oct-21 11:14:58

I have some good friends who hold totally different views to me. A couple are rather anti Semitic (I’m Jewish) but that’s due to their strict Irish Catholic upbringing I believe. I have another friend who’s right wing, loves Trump and won’t get vaccinated. Another is hard left and yet another believes the vaccine is some kind of control issue by the Illuminati. All of them are good, kind people. Humans are very complex. The fact that someone holds a view I may find ridiculous or distasteful doesn’t mean there isn’t anything else about them that is very appealing. If any of them held extreme views that advocated hurting or causing suffering to humans or animals then I wouldn’t wish to know them.

Authoress Tue 19-Oct-21 11:24:30

I really dislike trying to communicate with conspiracy theorists, because it seems to leach into all areas of their lives.

Cossy Tue 19-Oct-21 11:28:43

Unless we disagree on something which really cuts across my values or ethics then no, we are all different and all have different life experiences which often form our vies and beliefs

Elvis58 Tue 19-Oct-21 11:30:52

No, l have discussions with friends who have opposing views to mine.l listen and we debate but l would not fall out over it.lts heathly to have debates.