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Meghan on the Ellen show.

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Bluebellwould Thu 18-Nov-21 23:57:33

Have you seen the reports showing her performing on the street. Sucking a baby’s bottle and talking gibberish. Why would anyone think this was a good idea? It’s absolutely cringe worthy.

Cold Fri 19-Nov-21 14:15:26

eazybee

If you think Harry was the only pupil who received 'assistance' with his course work you are extremely naive. It happened all the time with help from parents, tutors and senior members of staff, and is almost impossible to prove; children and staff know, and very occasionally the pupil concerned will admit openly to it, thinking it clever. That is one reason why course work was severely restricted and more reliance placed on exams.

Harry's work was investigated by a tribunal at the time and no evidence of cheating was found, although it was admitted he was given help to prepare it. I remember the case, and the art tutor had threatened to make allegations when she was dismissed, and they called her bluff. She did receive a settlement because dismissal procedures were not followed correctly. Possibly.

It is not true to say that there was no evidence of cheating because the tribunal could not rule on this issue as it was completely outside the remit of an employment tribunal. The issue they had to rule on was the employment issue between teacher and school

What the tribunal actually said in their judgement was "It is clear whichever version of the evidence is accepted that Mr Burke did ask the claimant to assist Prince Harry with text for his expressive art project ... It is not part of this tribunal's function to determine whether or not it was legitimate."

Eton have had several cheating scandals - the most recent a few years ago where teachers who were also A-level examiners were tipping off their pupils about what questions would be on the exam paper

Josianne Fri 19-Nov-21 14:38:29

Germanshepherdsmum

Charles is intelligent but not academically gifted. I agree that working within the RF it wouldn’t have mattered one jot what exams H did or didn’t pass, and that he would have been better off staying in the Army where he earned some respect. Especially as that would have reduced the chances of meeting MM. Imagine her as an Army wife!

Harry might disagree with you on that Germanshepherdsmum. Didn't he say something like the stars were aligned for Meghan to fall into his life, so she would have found him wherever!

M0nica Fri 19-Nov-21 15:15:34

Parents have been helping children as long as it has been possible, and at every level from primary to A level, and even university and at state and private schools. It is universal.

What happened, or didn't happen, at Eton would have been happening at the local state school as well. Examiners become quite good at sniffing it out.

Too good sometimes. It still wrankles with DD that she didn't get a prize in a plasticine modelling competition at a school bazaar because it was so good that they thought one of her parents had done it. DH was away on business at the time, and as she pointed out, if I had been the cheat the model would have been really dreadful and have stood no chance of winning the prize.

tickingbird Fri 19-Nov-21 15:27:42

Fanny Cornforth

Tickingbird I can assure you that I don’t read ‘gossipy magazines’ either.
I’ve explained why calling Ellen ‘degenerate’ is unpleasant

What are you talking about??? I haven’t referred to this woman as degenerate. It’s about time you thought about what you’re posting. Maybe you’d like to apologise.

That goes for you Beswitched too.

tickingbird Fri 19-Nov-21 15:30:04

As for you Algerias I suggest you do as you advise and read before commenting. I’m sick of some members of GN inventing posts and/or attributing posts to the wrong person.

Alegrias1 Fri 19-Nov-21 15:33:17

Great advice, tickingbird, thanks.

ixion Fri 19-Nov-21 15:47:21

FannyCornforth

Re Harry and Eton
Going completely off piste here, but what the heck.
I’ve always wondered why a first from Oxbridge is held in higher regard than a first from Scumbag College.
Surely it’s much more difficult, and a greater achievement, to get a good degree from the latter?
Can anyone shed light? Thank you!

What Scumbag College did you have in mind, FC?
I hope it wasn't mine, or anyone else's who's proud to have got a First from any other Institution.

Lucca Fri 19-Nov-21 15:54:39

FannyCornforth

Is that hair shirt enough?

No need to avoid these threads just because I objected to one comment,

Lucca Fri 19-Nov-21 15:59:19

Germanshepherdsmum

I’m afraid I agree with Fanny Lucca. Harry has inherited his parents’ lack of academic ability and I can’t imagine what he would have achieved academically without his very expensive and privileged education.

I don’t dispute he lacks academic ability but I objected to the “he’s not very bright “ comment. He can’t help what kind of intelligence he was born with. Imagine the outcry if we said “ she’s not very pretty is she” about some princess or other.

theworriedwell Fri 19-Nov-21 16:07:42

M0nica

I think Prince Charles has shown that he is considerably more intelligent than he is often given credit for.

To begin with he became concerned about the dangers we pose to our environment at a time when he was considered a crank, yet he stuck with it. he picked up on climate change, how we produce our food and the other environmental issues that now are of global concern.

I wonder how all those who make superior comments on the intelligence of the RF would measure up, if IQ comparisons were made.

Prince Harry was highly successful army officer. Not a high flyer, but well regarded for his technical skills and his empathy for the soldiers he served with. The greatest shame is that he was not able to make a lifetime career in the army.

I'm not sure about the empathy. Didn't he get sent on equality and diversity courses more than once due to his inappropriate language.

Germanshepherdsmum Fri 19-Nov-21 16:22:39

Did he? I missed that one. Doesn’t surprise me though.

FannyCornforth Fri 19-Nov-21 16:41:19

ixion it was a reference to this, from The Young Ones.
I myself went to a place that only just stopped being a poly.
The thing is about ‘threads like these’ is that there is always someone keen to have a go at you.
And I can’t be arsed with it

MissAdventure Fri 19-Nov-21 16:42:58

I loved that episode. grin

FannyCornforth Fri 19-Nov-21 16:47:57

Yes, it was a cracker grin

MissAdventure Fri 19-Nov-21 16:55:26

Too offensive to post, but very apt, I think.

Zoejory Fri 19-Nov-21 16:59:58

The Daily Mash won't be to everyone's taste. I find it quite hilarious at times

Don't read this if offended by bad language

www.thedailymash.co.uk/news/celebrity/meghan-does-some-shit-that-would-have-been-magical-if-it-was-kate-20211119214456

MissAdventure Fri 19-Nov-21 17:07:19

grin
Very funny!
I love the daily mash.

Lucca Fri 19-Nov-21 17:07:52

Zoejory

The Daily Mash won't be to everyone's taste. I find it quite hilarious at times

Don't read this if offended by bad language

www.thedailymash.co.uk/news/celebrity/meghan-does-some-shit-that-would-have-been-magical-if-it-was-kate-20211119214456

Very good

mokryna Fri 19-Nov-21 17:15:13

theworriedwell

Cold

Eton was under huge pressure to get Harry that second A-level because it was the minimum requirement to enroll at Sandhurst's Officer training programme. Therefore the Art teacher was ordered to write his Art coursework for him.

It all came out at an industrial tribunal a few years later because they sacked the Art teacher when she complained (internally at the school) about being forced to help Harry cheat

Never knew that. Did she win at the tribunal?

£45,000

Beswitched Fri 19-Nov-21 20:27:01

tickingbird

*Fanny Cornforth*

Tickingbird I can assure you that I don’t read ‘gossipy magazines’ either.
I’ve explained why calling Ellen ‘degenerate’ is unpleasant

What are you talking about??? I haven’t referred to this woman as degenerate. It’s about time you thought about what you’re posting. Maybe you’d like to apologise.

That goes for you Beswitched too.

You did refer to her as degenerate. It's there in black and white 'Ellen degenerate'.
Why are you denying it instead of just apologising and admitting you got in wrong. We all make mistakes. No shame in that.

Bit of a cheek demanding others apologise to you shock

tickingbird Sat 20-Nov-21 09:54:50

Oh dear Beswitched you are in a tizz. Now I’m saying this very slowly for you so you don’t get confused. I t. W a s N o t. M e. T h a t. R e f e r r e d T o. ED’S. S u r n a m e I t W a s. A n o t h e r. P o s t e r.

I’m nothing if not magnanimous as I can see you’re struggling.

Lucca Sat 20-Nov-21 09:59:57

Beswitched

tickingbird

Fanny Cornforth

Tickingbird I can assure you that I don’t read ‘gossipy magazines’ either.
I’ve explained why calling Ellen ‘degenerate’ is unpleasant

What are you talking about??? I haven’t referred to this woman as degenerate. It’s about time you thought about what you’re posting. Maybe you’d like to apologise.

That goes for you Beswitched too.

You did refer to her as degenerate. It's there in black and white 'Ellen degenerate'.
Why are you denying it instead of just apologising and admitting you got in wrong. We all make mistakes. No shame in that.

Bit of a cheek demanding others apologise to you shock

Just to put this one to bed. Here are screenshots which show how it “started “

Alegrias1 Sat 20-Nov-21 10:01:19

It was me that tickingbird was having a go at, not EDG. She never called her that name.

We should stand up for the truth, even when the people concerned are being quite unpleasant. ??

Lucca Sat 20-Nov-21 10:05:21

Exactly

Zoejory Sat 20-Nov-21 10:05:56

Order, order.

I find tickingbird not guilty due to the evidence presented by Lucca