Meghan on the Ellen show.

Diana openly admitted she only got 2 O levels. Charles wasn’t very academically gifted either yet ‘somehow’ got a place at Cambridge. Harry takes after his parents in the brains department. I think William did a bit better but doubtless someone will check.

maddyone

I thought the It’s a Royal Knockout which was done years ago was absolutely cringe worthy then. I didn’t see Meghan’s latest interview (didn’t see the first one either) but it also sounds cringe worthy. It seems to me that Meghan likes to be in the spotlight.

I think the royal It's a Knockout was for charity wasn't it? I
thought it raised £1million, obviously would be higher in todays world. So unless I've got that wrong at least it did some good.

Having said that I didn't watch it so no idea what it was like, didn't watch H & M on the Oprah show or Meghan on the Ellen show. I've seen clips of all of them on news shows but not really enough to form a judgement except for lies in the Oprah show which I don't like.

theworriedwell

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Eton was under huge pressure to get Harry that second A-level because it was the minimum requirement to enroll at Sandhurst's Officer training programme. Therefore the Art teacher was ordered to write his Art coursework for him.

It all came out at an industrial tribunal a few years later because they sacked the Art teacher when she complained (internally at the school) about being forced to help Harry cheat

Never knew that. Did she win at the tribunal?

Yes she did - she was awarded £45,000
www.theguardian.com/uk/2005/may/10/schools.alevels2004
www.theguardian.com/uk/2006/feb/14/schools.publicschools

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theworriedwell

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Eton was under huge pressure to get Harry that second A-level because it was the minimum requirement to enroll at Sandhurst's Officer training programme. Therefore the Art teacher was ordered to write his Art coursework for him.

It all came out at an industrial tribunal a few years later because they sacked the Art teacher when she complained (internally at the school) about being forced to help Harry cheat

Never knew that. Did she win at the tribunal?

Yes she did - she was awarded £45,000
www.theguardian.com/uk/2005/may/10/schools.alevels2004
www.theguardian.com/uk/2006/feb/14/schools.publicschools

Good for her. I don't know how I never heard of that.

Thanks for the links.

I'm surprised the army weren't concerned about that, not very honourable for an officer to get in by fraud. To be charitable maybe he actually thought he had done it himself, I mean he did the work but it wasn't submitted and he didn't know someone else's work was submitted.

I wouldn’t be that charitable I’m afraid.

Read the links, doesn't sound like my charitable interpretation. Oh dear.

He should have been allowed to stay in the army, imho, even if it took a bit of trickery (of which I disapprove) to get him there.

NotTooOld

He should have been allowed to stay in the army, imho, even if it took a bit of trickery (of which I disapprove) to get him there.

And yet it is ok to remove a 4 year old from a school if the parents have used granny's address to get them in? Actually I think it is quite disappointing to think people can get into Sandhurst by cheating.

As I said upthread, I had a certain sympathy with Harry as a youngster, he was quite upfront about his lack of academic ability. Brains like good looks are often genetic, an accident of birth and good fortune. It's not always possible to make yourself clever and achieve good grades if you happen to be a person who isn't blessed with the right grey cells. Even at a top school. Lets face it Charles and Edward wouldn't have got into Cambridge with their grades if they'd been anyone else. Royalty does bring some privileges and the best private education on offer is one of those. I believe only 7% of the population are privately educated but they still are massively over represented in the professions. Lets not pretend, it's much harder it is to achieve the same level of success from even a reasonably well regarded state school. We all know Harry in securing a raft of top positions, has been elevated beyond what he would achieve if he was bog standard Harry Windsor. Mind you having gone to Eton, even with two A levels he could maybe have blagged his way into a West End estate agents who sell to the very rich as some sort of negotiator, pupils from top notch schools have all the right connections and networks, far more so than say down the road from Eton at a Slough comprehensive.

This IS Meghan, as if we could forget.. Whatever gets her noticed.

www.telegraph.co.uk/tv/2021/11/18/meghan-interview-review-ellen-degeneres-duchess-sussex-royals/.

I was procrastinating about going to bed last night and watched the Ellen de Generes ‘prank’ in full.

EDG played Meghan like a fiddle, getting her to humiliate ‘little’ people who are just trying to make a living and humiliating herself with immature behaviour. None of it was funny and I felt so sorry for the venders involved.

Whatever happened to Be Kind?

tww my comment was in response to your saying ‘To be charitable…..’.

So very desperate to get on Oprah and Ellen, neither of which would happen unless she married as she did. Before, nobody was interested. She shows more and more that she is not royal and never will be. Just a means to an end for her.

FannyCornforth

maddyone

I expect I could have done better if I’d gone to Eton

I do think that it’s rather shocking to have access to all the academic excellence that Eton must offer, any to come out at the end of it so poorly --he can’t be very bright, can he--

So you are having a go at someone for not being very bright ? Nice.

I have a brother who went to a public school but was just not academically “bright”. He didn’t even get any O levels .
He has however had a successful career and is far more clever about money and practical things than I am

I knew as soon as I posted that I knew that someone would have a pull me up on that.
Apologies, it was a crass (and not very bright) thing to say.
I think that I’ll be giving these types of threads a wide berth for a while

Shocking editing!

Is that hair shirt enough?

If you think Harry was the only pupil who received 'assistance' with his course work you are extremely naive. It happened all the time with help from parents, tutors and senior members of staff, and is almost impossible to prove; children and staff know, and very occasionally the pupil concerned will admit openly to it, thinking it clever. That is one reason why course work was severely restricted and more reliance placed on exams.

Harry's work was investigated by a tribunal at the time and no evidence of cheating was found, although it was admitted he was given help to prepare it. I remember the case, and the art tutor had threatened to make allegations when she was dismissed, and they called her bluff. She did receive a settlement because dismissal procedures were not followed correctly. Possibly.

I’m afraid I agree with Fanny Lucca. Harry has inherited his parents’ lack of academic ability and I can’t imagine what he would have achieved academically without his very expensive and privileged education.

If you think Harry was the only pupil who received 'assistance' with his course work you are extremely naive. It happened all the time with help from parents, tutors and senior members of staff, and is almost impossible to prove; children and staff know, and very occasionally the pupil concerned will admit openly to it, thinking it clever. That is one reason why course work was severely restricted and more reliance placed on exams.

Quite right, eazybee and it doesn't always stand the pupils in good stead when they have to go out into the world on their own and cope.

I’m afraid I agree with Fanny Lucca. Harry has inherited his parents’ lack of academic ability and I can’t imagine what he would have achieved academically without his very expensive and privileged education.
That wouldn't really have matter, though, would it Germanshepherdsmum because he would have had a 'job for life' and probably would have been good at it and an asset to the RF had he stayed because he has charm (or did).

My education was State funded and I can spell really

Just can't type.

I think Prince Charles has shown that he is considerably more intelligent than he is often given credit for.

To begin with he became concerned about the dangers we pose to our environment at a time when he was considered a crank, yet he stuck with it. he picked up on climate change, how we produce our food and the other environmental issues that now are of global concern.

I wonder how all those who make superior comments on the intelligence of the RF would measure up, if IQ comparisons were made.

Prince Harry was highly successful army officer. Not a high flyer, but well regarded for his technical skills and his empathy for the soldiers he served with. The greatest shame is that he was not able to make a lifetime career in the army.

Prince Harry was highly successful army officer. Not a high flyer, but well regarded for his technical skills and his empathy for the soldiers he served with. The greatest shame is that he was not able to make a lifetime career in the army
Yes, he was.

Amazingly, many people I know did quite badly at school but went on to get qualifications and/or succeed extremely well in their chosen path in life.
School does not always bring out the best in some pupils.

Charles is intelligent but not academically gifted. I agree that working within the RF it wouldn’t have mattered one jot what exams H did or didn’t pass, and that he would have been better off staying in the Army where he earned some respect. Especially as that would have reduced the chances of meeting MM. Imagine her as an Army wife!