Harry’s ‘pop’ at Charles

I just wish they'd both go off and live the quiet life they pretended to want. If my ds or dd slagged me off in public I would be beyond upset. We are mature enough to talk about this stuff among ourselves.

That’s exactly what I would like EnaSharples (love the name.) They said they were leaving royal life, absolutely fine, they said they wanted to live privately, fine, they said they wanted to be financially independent, fine. However they don’t live a private life, they keep making pronouncements about how we should all live, for example, take fewer flights, haha, perhaps they should practice what they preach! They also said they wanted to leave royal life, and now they trade on their royal names every time they open their mouth. They also wanted to be financially independent, but then Harry moaned because his father stopped his allowance and his security costs.
You really couldn’t make it up. It’s no wonder people, including Gransnetters moan. All they actually need to do to stop the moaning is shut up!

All they actually need to do to stop the moaning is shut up!

They don't actually care if we moan or not.

And if they're being told to shut up because people are moaning at them, doesn't that count as bullying ?

Well if they don’t know they’re being told to shut up, are they actually being bullied? By moi?

It's the principle maddyone . Everyone here telling them to shut up because we're tired of them.

Just don't pay attention to them, then...

I just think its unbecoming (good old fashioned word ) for gangs of people to tell someone what to do, someone they've never met, who doesn't affect their lives at all. Turn off Jeremy Vine, don't read the Express....

Is telling people to turn off Jeremy Vine,don’t read the Express
bullying or bossing ?

Its a suggestion for ways for people to avoid the stories about people who annoy them.

Entirely up to anyone whether they do it or not. And I won't be starting thread after thread to complain about you and question your parentage if you decide not to do it.

I don’t watch Jeremy Vine or read the Express , I have not questioned anyone’s parentage .

That's good. Some people do and some people have. You can assume I'm aiming post at them.

Alegrias1

Here's a style of RF I could live with.

www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-59516157?at_medium=RSS&at_campaign=KARANGA

A good example of what the RF could be like. Perhaps Harry could take a lesson from this 18 year old especially this part:

Now she's 18 Amalia's entitled to €1.6m (£1.3m; $1.8m) in income and household support, but won't take it up for the time being because it would make her "uncomfortable" while she is doing nothing to earn it.

I’ve never questioned Harry’s parentage. I don’t think that’s anything to do with me. If I were asked for an opinion, I’d say Charles is Harry’s father, in my humble opinion.

I admit to watching Jeremy Vine though, but I don’t read the Express.

I’m ok then, don’t watch Jeremy Vine, don’t read the Express and believe Charles to be Harry’s father. ?

I'm ok then too because I publically told myself to shut up on this thread yesterday evening.
And I polished my halo in church.

publicly would be better

Ooh, I just did mine in the armchair with a bit of Brasso.

WHY does Harry not just '*shut it*'
He has a wife, two beautiful children, a fantastic home anything money can buy but what now appears lacking is contentment I wonder why?
Does he not know that all the wealth in the world will never give him that.

Harry, in his first paid job since leaving the royal family, is telling people, courtesy of BetterUp, a 'coaching platform, that 'a lot of job resignations aren't all bad' following 'a mental health awakening' ....'and a big component of this mission is building awareness and continuing to pioneer the conversation.' He obviously has much experience of managing without a salary.
Courtesy of the Daily Telegraph, BBC News bulletins , the World Service and the Today Programme. And that is just this morning.
Difficult to avoid.
In passing, apparently it is unbecoming for gangs of people to tell someone what to do, someone they have never met, who doesn't affect their lives, but it is acceptable for one person to tell those aforementioned people what not to do, listen to, or read.
Strange, that.

I've just been catching up with what some old contacts are doing, courtesy of Linked In. One in particular is a middle aged person who gave up a job because the stress was making him ill, he's on medication and now he works with other people with MH issues.

If Harry talking about things like this makes more people aware of the issues, it really doesn't matter to me if some people think he's entitled to talk about it or not.

Do what you like, read what you like, pretend that I'm trying to tell you what to do, whatever floats your boat.

maddyone

Well if they don’t know they’re being told to shut up, are they actually being bullied? By moi?

Are they on Gransnet

Should we start a thread guessing hat their names are?

what what what

Alegrias1

I've just been catching up with what some old contacts are doing, courtesy of Linked In. One in particular is a middle aged person who gave up a job because the stress was making him ill, he's on medication and now he works with other people with MH issues.

If Harry talking about things like this makes more people aware of the issues, it really doesn't matter to me if some people think he's entitled to talk about it or not.

Do what you like, read what you like, pretend that I'm trying to tell you what to do, whatever floats your boat.

It's absolutely fine to suggest this if someone has an income.

Many people find it beneficial to themselves to help others, volunteer for charities etc, after they retire and ? have enough income to live on.

If someone is Just About Managing it's not liberating, nor does it make them happy, to be made redundant and worry themselves sick how to pay the rent, feed their children, buy school uniform and clothes for them, let alone tell them gently that Father Christmas may not be coming this year.

Harry lives in Cloud Cuckoo Land and has no clue how many people live but then lectures them on how they should be feeling.
He is completely self-centred.

Rant over.

Well, not quite, if he is on GN I hope he reads this.

I think Doria is lurking on here.?.

If so, I hope she shows him my post!

She seems the most sensible of all

I suspect, although possibly I'm not speaking for everybody, that some may feel as a parent, Harry's criticism of Charles strikes a chord, because possibly we've been there, albeit in not such a public manner or about such a huge amount of money being withheld. Nevertheless for some, and the many estrangement threads bear testament to the feeling that resonates about offspring per se "ah yes you're being somewhat economical with the truth there" ! So we have sympathy with Charles, because yes it's been our experience too and what recourse does he have to address those accusations. I know one of mine was certainly a complete arse a bit tricky at times, when he presented his version of what has now been rejigged as "my truth" , even he would admit now how skewed that was

This is the nature of families two sides to everything. Royal children not getting on with parents is nothing new, history is awash with troubled relationships, The Kaiser had a difficult relationship with his mother Vicky, Queen Victoria's eldest child, her brother the future Edward VII had an equally strained relationship with Queen Victoria herself.