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Harry’s ‘pop’ at Charles

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Bluebellwould Mon 06-Dec-21 11:46:10

Harry has apparently had another pop at his dad this time regarding the payment for honours debacle. Harry seems to keep on attacking Charles and I wondered if there might be a particular reason for this. In all of the multitudinous reports on their estrangement I haven’t seen anyone wondering if H is doing this because he believes/knows Charles is not his dad. I am not suggesting that is true but it may be his ‘truth’ as others have put it. Perhaps it would go some way to explain his seeming lack of belonging. Just musing on a grey day, please feel free to wade in or not as the case maybe.

Josianne Tue 07-Dec-21 14:04:45

Alegrias1

I've just been catching up with what some old contacts are doing, courtesy of Linked In. One in particular is a middle aged person who gave up a job because the stress was making him ill, he's on medication and now he works with other people with MH issues.

If Harry talking about things like this makes more people aware of the issues, it really doesn't matter to me if some people think he's entitled to talk about it or not.

Do what you like, read what you like, pretend that I'm trying to tell you what to do, whatever floats your boat.

It must be the day for talking to old colleagues! I've spent 30 minutes on the phone listening to an unhappy at work person who made their point to HR, who worked round the difficulties even to the extent of changing their outlook and who now sees overcoming the challenges as a positive. Sometimes it is all to easy to say to throw in the towel in a job, but it doesn't necessarily make for a better or happier person.

trisher Tue 07-Dec-21 14:05:40

I know people who have walked out of jobs whiich they found stressful for one reason or another without any prospect of a new job or any other income . I did it myself once. If you've never dealt with overwhelming stress you might think staying is the best option, it isn't. It's best to leave and be ready for a new opportunity rather than hang on and suffer a break down which leaves you unfit to work. Harry is absolutely right.
Mind it wouldn't matter what he said, on GN he is always wrong. I simply don't understand the level of hatred aimed at him.

Josianne Tue 07-Dec-21 14:09:11

I simply don't understand the level of hatred aimed at him.
I have no hatred for Harry, but his behaviour is very irritating, and no doubt upsetting for his family.

Calistemon Tue 07-Dec-21 14:12:27

Mind it wouldn't matter what he said, on GN he is always wrong. I simply don't understand the level of hatred aimed at him.

I don't hate him. I'm sure he's charming.

I just don't think that he realises what life is like for many people but still offers advice.

I know people who have walked out of jobs whiich they found stressful for one reason or another without any prospect of a new job or any other income .

I'm sure we've all been there, I have too - but how do you pay the bills if you walk out?
How easy is it to get another job if you admit at interview that you walked out of the last job?

Alegrias1 Tue 07-Dec-21 14:13:52

Calistemon

Alegrias1

I've just been catching up with what some old contacts are doing, courtesy of Linked In. One in particular is a middle aged person who gave up a job because the stress was making him ill, he's on medication and now he works with other people with MH issues.

If Harry talking about things like this makes more people aware of the issues, it really doesn't matter to me if some people think he's entitled to talk about it or not.

Do what you like, read what you like, pretend that I'm trying to tell you what to do, whatever floats your boat.

It's absolutely fine to suggest this if someone has an income.

Many people find it beneficial to themselves to help others, volunteer for charities etc, after they retire and ? have enough income to live on.

If someone is Just About Managing it's not liberating, nor does it make them happy, to be made redundant and worry themselves sick how to pay the rent, feed their children, buy school uniform and clothes for them, let alone tell them gently that Father Christmas may not be coming this year.

Harry lives in Cloud Cuckoo Land and has no clue how many people live but then lectures them on how they should be feeling.
He is completely self-centred.

Rant over.

Well, not quite, if he is on GN I hope he reads this.

Just to clear some things up...

My former colleague is not of retirement age and isn't volunteering to help people, he's still working for a salary. He didn't have a salary for a while, a couple of years I think.

So its not just meant for the independently wealthy. Should Harry not mention it because not everybody can do it?

Somebody better tell his Grandma that Harry needs to shut up.

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Germanshepherdsmum Tue 07-Dec-21 14:14:32

Not the case with me. I just find them irritating hypocrites.

Alegrias1 Tue 07-Dec-21 14:16:14

How easy is it to get another job if you admit at interview that you walked out of the last job?

Luckily, we don't live in Victorian times any more.

Leaving because the job is making you ill is not "walking out of the last job".

Germanshepherdsmum Tue 07-Dec-21 14:18:59

Sorry I was replying to terribull. Things moved on quickly.
I don’t hate Harry either but I’m very disappointed in him and the way he has treated other members of family.

Josianne Tue 07-Dec-21 14:19:39

And that's exactly it Alegrias Harry grasps at anything that has the Queen's collaboration or approval to make his mark. Then the silly fool goes and criticises his grandma's parenting of his father. There was something about cake and eating it in another thread recently.

Calistemon Tue 07-Dec-21 14:20:11

Interviewers may not be allowed to probe or ask certain questions but they're sure to be thinking it.

Calistemon Tue 07-Dec-21 14:21:34

The Prince's Trust.

Charles has helped so many through this organisation.

Alegrias1 Tue 07-Dec-21 14:22:41

Josianne

And that's exactly it Alegrias Harry grasps at anything that has the Queen's collaboration or approval to make his mark. Then the silly fool goes and criticises his grandma's parenting of his father. There was something about cake and eating it in another thread recently.

Oh for goodness sake he can't win. Its Kafkaesque.

Talks to his gran - using her name.

Doesn't talk to his gran - treating her badly.

Anniebach Tue 07-Dec-21 14:28:42

Off work for a couple of years, lived off benefits?

trisher when you walked out were you married with a wage
earning husband, or did you pay rent etc from benefits ?

Some think everyone has savings, no worries about the rent or
putting food on the table.

Those who support Harry’s advise , did you walk out of your job, were you a one parent family ?

Josianne Tue 07-Dec-21 14:31:50

Talk to grandma is fine, use her name fine, don't talk to her fine, but unfairly denigrate her publicly NOT fine.
If my DGS thought I had been a poor parent to his father the last thing he would do is to tell the whole world. As someone up thread said, many as parents on GN, may feel a chord has been struck, so of course we have sympathy whether we have experienced it or not.

nahsma Tue 07-Dec-21 14:33:13

Lucca

May I venture to suggest that if H and M did ‘shut up “ and if any royals stopped giving interviews etc posters would be bored and have nothing to moan about ?

And people might pay more attention to Prince Andrew. I think H&M are being the dead cat on the table to distract us from PA now that the Ghislaine Maxwell trial has started. I shall now put the coal scuttle on my head and hide behind the sofa.

Anniebach Tue 07-Dec-21 14:35:20

You can start a thread on Andrew nahsma

Alegrias1 Tue 07-Dec-21 14:36:53

Anniebach

Off work for a couple of years, lived off benefits?

trisher when you walked out were you married with a wage
earning husband, or did you pay rent etc from benefits ?

Some think everyone has savings, no worries about the rent or
putting food on the table.

Those who support Harry’s advise , did you walk out of your job, were you a one parent family ?

Holy s***.

This thread is a disgrace in so many ways.

trisher Tue 07-Dec-21 14:37:29

Sorry but all the posts lambasting Harry show real hate for him. You may say you don't hate him, the things written show some do- meaning of hate- intense hostility and aversion usually deriving from fear, anger, or sense of injury^

I don't see what a post about an organsation set up to help young people has to do with the discussion. Diana did a huge amount for Aids awareness and helped to promote the banning of land mines. The Halo Trust is still working to eradicate them and Harry supports it www.halotrust.org/about-us/who-we-are/our-history/ . Landmine Free 2025.

Calistemon Tue 07-Dec-21 14:37:38

I think that H&M show their daftness and self-absorption if they keep attacking the Royal Family and attracting attention.

Something much more serious is happening and Andrew is involved. Perhaps not discussing it is a good idea whilst the trial is underway.

Calistemon Tue 07-Dec-21 14:41:32

Don't hate him in the slightest.

I just think he's a bit daft, unaware of what he says then does and its impact on others. The travel by private jet to lecture us on what not to do was one instance. I think a few people are a bit daft but I don't hate them as I don't know them.

He does keep us entertained, though!!

Calistemon Tue 07-Dec-21 14:43:18

!meaning of hate- intense hostility and aversion usually deriving from fear, anger, or sense of injury

Funny post, though, trisher, thanks!
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Josianne Tue 07-Dec-21 14:43:34

trisher

Sorry but all the posts lambasting Harry show real hate for him. You may say you don't hate him, the things written show some do- meaning of hate- intense hostility and aversion usually deriving from fear, anger, or sense of injury^

I don't see what a post about an organsation set up to help young people has to do with the discussion. Diana did a huge amount for Aids awareness and helped to promote the banning of land mines. The Halo Trust is still working to eradicate them and Harry supports it www.halotrust.org/about-us/who-we-are/our-history/ . Landmine Free 2025.

Sorry trisher but most posters on GN who are irritated by Harry, myself included, are some of the least enraged, aggressive, malicious, agitated or frightened posters on GN.

Calistemon Tue 07-Dec-21 14:47:04

Sorry trisher but most posters on GN who are irritated by Harry, myself included, are some of the least enraged, aggressive, malicious, agitated or frightened posters on GN.

Spot on, Josianne

I'm still laughing?
But I am a bit frightened that a royal security policeman might be knocking on the door any minute!
Will he arrest me if I'm aggressive?

Anniebach Tue 07-Dec-21 14:48:39

Anniebach
Off work for a couple of years, lived off benefits?

trisher when you walked out were you married with a wage
earning husband, or did you pay rent etc from benefits ?

Some think everyone has savings, no worries about the rent or
putting food on the table.

Those who support Harry’s advise , did you walk out of your job, were you a one parent family ?
Holy s***.

This thread is a disgrace in so many ways

Why is it a disgrace Alegrias1 you said a contact of yours had
left their job, trisher said she did so .

All I asked was how did they manage to live between jobs

merlotgran Tue 07-Dec-21 14:51:08

I don't hate Harry either but his behaviour irritates me because I really dislike hypocrisy and their 'do as we say but not as we do' attitude.

His disloyalty to the RF having milked the benefits is bound to ruffle feathers - with his own misdemeanors happily swept under the carpet.