NHS staff making themselves unemployed by not having the Covid vaccine

JaneJudge

They did this with carers and we cannot employ people now. I think it's a really bad idea

Yes I’m a carer and as usual we are thought of as dispensable but we’re obviously not as there is a terrific shortage of carers… I have always thought it was quite wrong that we had to get the vaccine or lose our jobs months ago but NHS staff……?‍♀️

I am vaccinated, and always was vacc with god knows what when I worked for NHS. I would like to see an end to NHS staff ramming the covid testing sticks down peoples noses and throats. It's clearly assault. Allow patients the grace, if they can, to do this themselves.

Plus it being mandated for a specific subtype of people but not for society - I guess it is because that subtype of people are working with people who are particularly vulnerable because they are by definition already ill.

The issue with carers is that they’re underpaid and under supported, not that they have to get the vaccine.

Personally if you don’t get the jabs your selfish and thinking only of yourself and not others and it shows just how caring you are in a caring position. When I was in hospital not with covid. Nurses were talking about it and all on my ward had being jabbed. As I said how can you treat ppl if you haven’t. And for them telling fear monger stories you should be ashamed of themselves for spreading rubbish. I’m vulnerable and I’ve had all Pfizer with just numb arm. So go spread your rubbish elsewhere

Sago

It’s a new vaccine!
We don’t know what the outcome maybe.
Drugs that doctors and nurses administer are tried tested.

It's not 'new' as such. Much of the testing would already have been done as it's a similar vaccine to many others. The only difference is that the funding was immediately made available to fast-track the manufacture. It really isn't going to give you a micro-chip or connect you to 5G!

I think we may need to think this through carefully. I'm a fully vaccinated ex qualified nurse and I know a few nurses and drs that cannot have the vaccinations due to health concerns, but have worked tirelessly throughout the pandemic. All nurses and drs have to have the hepatitis tests and vaccinations, I had poor immunity to the hepatitis vaccine but was still expected to continue nursing these patients, I just had more tests and vaccines. It's not as cut and dry as people think

AmberSpyglass

I’d rather not be treated by someone whose critical thinking is so poor they don’t have a vaccine during a pandemic.

I agree

I don't think the vaccines are 'experimental'. There is too much twaddle being put out. Surely reducing absenteeism amongst NHS staff through Covid is a good reason given the staffing shortage.

If you're vaccinated, you're 'less likely' to contract Covid than if you're not vaccinated and you will have milder symptoms, thus meaning that you're 'less likely' to pass it on and if you do, you're passing on a weaker strain than someone unvaccinated would.

Surely it's exactly the same strength of virus that you'd be passing on, vaccinated or not.
It's just that the effect on a vaccinated person would be less than that of an unvaccinated person.

My husband got a blood clot in his heart after his first jab. Now on blood thinners for life BUT he still had the second and booster, as catching covid would kill him as he has only one functioning lung

Did anyone see GB News yesterday where the official figure given for the total deaths due to covid alone {without any other underlying factors] was 17k and that the average age of those deaths was 82.5 years and that around 700k people die each year in the UK? If so maybe a lot of NHS staff are not willing to take the risks associated with the vaccine particularly as most have natural immunity by now which is far safer and stronger than that provided by the vaccine, which is not in fact a vaccine as we know it. As for unvaccinated NHS staff putting patients at risk, why make them have three vaccines for an illness which is far weaker now and is no longer such a threat to society when everyone clapped and praised them for working throughout the pandemic without adequate protection and vaccines. The vaccine is a trial in real time and we are starting to see the effects with heart problems and other illnesses - lots of people will not admit that the vaccine is and has caused lots of health issues but it is a fact although blocked by the media that a lot more people are getting ill after the vaccine. Why then should someone be forced into getting a jab when the real risk is now over. Boris himself has said that it is only if you've had the booster that you may have any sort of protection, so why insist on 3 vaccines now. It does not make sense. The NHS staff are not being given a choice and will not be easily replaced. I support the unvaccinated staff fully and you should take a look at some of their messages before deciding their futures. We should always try to see both sides of an issue and be able to debate without one side getting angry and not even listening but trying to enforce their will on others. If you want 5 or 6 vaccines they won't try to dissuade you, they only want the choice to decide what goes into their bodies. This was after all a bioweapon accidentally released from a lab why would anyone then want to purposefully inject themselves with it? Also check out the figures for the unvaccinated staff who are currently covering for vaccinated staff who are off either ill or infected......

Can you show us those figures, topcat?

I saw an anaesthetist on TV today saying he has antibodies due to having had covid therefore doesn't need vax. Really? Since when does antibodies stop a great deal of infection being passed on? Or prevent illness and sadly death in an already ill patient? Maybe he shouldn't bother with a scrub before surgery because he's had a tetanus and is healthy? Sod the poor patients! I wouldn't like him sat ultra close as my anaesthetist was when I had hip surgery- knowing he could be riddled with covid of any strain!! Yuk! I was astounded how utterly stupid he sounded, are we all doomed with thick youngsters even if they're medics?!?!? Sounds like it!

Top at. You say it's "weaker now" for whom? Who actually is 100% sure how they will react to catching covid? Derek draper didn't have a clue neither did 10000s others who were between 30ish and 60ish, apparently healthy no underlying issues, going about their lives blissfully unaware that somewhere buried deep within their DNA was a flawed thread that would leave them unable to drepel the ravages of covid? Thank gawd I've not had to test the mettle of my DNA so I've had vax all 3 to give myself a fighting chance should I need it! Don't be so naïve

I wouldn't trust an unvaccinated carer near me if I were a vulnerable oldie! Why take a risk when the risk is ALL on someone else?! How selfish, it's like driving like a lunatic when all my passengers have no seatbelts! At least I'LL be ok.......

I saw an anaesthetist on TV today saying he has antibodies due to having had covid therefore doesn't need vax. Really? Since when does antibodies stop a great deal of infection being passed on?
It probably wouldn't, but that is what the vaccine relies on too.

Vaccinated people can still pass on the virus.

That's the point; do vaccinated people develop more, fewer or the same antibodies as those who have had Covid and recovered?

This needs a lot more research.

I was in hospital recently as a day case. I had to provide proof that I had been vaccinated and show a negative covid test result for that morning. I was more than happy to do so. However, I wasn’t allowed to ask if the people treating me had been vaccinated. I wasn’t given a choice as to whether I was happy to be treated by someone unvaccinated. If patients are required to show proof of vaccination shouldn’t they also have the right to know if they are being treated or cared for by unvaccinated staff? I’m not talking about individual names or anything just about giving information which allows a patient to make a choice. Just a thought!

I had a hospital appointment and a small procedure done yesterday; quite honestly, it was more concerning to sit in a waiting room with over a dozen other people (spaced, but there were a lot of us) than seeing the doctor and the nurse.

No-one asked me to do a Covid test or asked for proof of vaccination and I didn't ask the staff or any of the other patients in the waiting room either.

FarNorth

youtu.be/GfnLTR9bh8s
Nigel Farage show Wed 19th January about 28minutes into programme, checkout farage gb news on youtube or on their streaming service.

I have read this morning that the government is planning to make it necessary to have had three vaccinations in order to enter our country. In other words if we want to go abroad for a holiday we will have to submit to the booster. How ill this leave all the NHS staff who have e not had even one/ A nurse I know has informed me many doctors and consultants have not been vaccinate. I can't believe they are not going to want to go on holidays abroad. More coercion, manipulation. They are finding a new way to make sure all NHS staff get their vaccination or lose their job.

I’m assuming that everyone in the waiting room during my visit would have been asked for the same vaccination proof. There were only about three people there. No one else was allowed to stay in there only the patients receiving procedures.

Follow the science, not necessarily what the government is spouting as we all know they are very economical with the truth. I am not going to get into any arguments with anyone or go into semantics as I will never get anywhere anyway....

Remember we have a choice the NHS staff do not. If your choice were taken away say by a cut in your pension or by another means would you then feel the same... after all a vaccine enforced today, then what tomorrow.

Test all the unvaccinated for natural immunity and they would not need the vaccines. As for antibodies you do not have any now even after the two vaccines and the third vaccine wanes after 4 weeks..... let nature take its' course and be brave.....don't let the PODS {prophets of doom] get you down.

Yes it was terrible at first we have all lost someone or know of someone affected by Covid, but the real threat is now over and we should adjust our mentality measures accordingly. We may be frightened but locking ourselves away and enforcing vaccines for those unwilling to have them is pure intransigence and wilful negligence of hope for a better future for all....

With what NHS staff must have endured throughout this pandemic I cannot understand why they would not want to protect themselves by taking the vaccine, unless they have a medical reason not to.