Camilla-Queen Consort?

I'm sure she was under duress, too.
She was 19.
I'm bewildered as to why charles is excused for his role in their relationship, and diana is castigated, still.

Me too MissA. How quickly we forget.

Miss Adventure . Do you not think it strange that Sarah Spencer didn’t know of the alleged affair and the fact that the
Spencers mixed with the royal family, they lived at Sandringham before they inherited Althorp, they holidayed at
Balmoral, her grandmother was lady in waiting to the Queen
Mother, sister Jane was married to Robert Fellows who worked in the Queen’s private Secretary office. The Queen is Godmother to Charles Spencer .

No one knew of the alleged affair?

Kate1949

Exactly. No one made him ask. Why wouldn't Diana accept if she had no idea what was going on? She was hoodwinked. So we are being asked not to believe a word Diana (allegedly) said but believe everything we are told about Charles and Camilla? That poor girl. What chance did she stand against that lot?

I disagree that she didn’t know what was going on.

Diana denied being the mystery blonde on the royal train parked in sidings overnight some months before their engagement.

Who marries a man who can’t stay faithful while he’s courting you? Someone who’d choose position, prestige and power over fidelity, obviously.

Mollygo sorry, I wasn’t clear.
I meant hostility from the public, not his sons.
I’m a lot more interested in how this plays out societally, I’m not actually that fussed about William and Harry

I always understood everyone knew, and approved, within the inner circle.
If Diana's sister didn't, well, she would hardly be the first woman to be kept in the dark about her boyfriends secret dalliance.

People keep a whole different home/family/children from their wives, for years.

Pantglas yes the mysterious blonde on the royal train, why did Diana’s mother loan her car to Camilla !

and her father was Equerry to George V1th 1950-52, and also the Queen 1952-54. Diana played with Princes Andrew and Edward while living on the Sandringham estate. She was no stranger to royal etiquette and how to behave around royals.

Neither was charles any stranger to royal etiquette.

The Spencer’s were part of the inner circle

I think it's very odd that GN members who are devotedly married and who believe firmly in the sanctity of marriage excuse the behaviour of C&C. To me (a divorcee), it isn't the actual marriage that makes it such as issue, it is the lack of fidelity, care and basic respect shown for Diana.

A friend of mine was treated that way by her ex. He'd carried on an affair for 4 years behind her back. She found out and it all blew up. Eventually, he married the woman he'd had the affair with. All of his friends and social circle edged him out. Not because the relationship with my friend ended. That's life. But because he treated her so appallingly.

I don't begrudge C&C their marriage, or their happy relationship. At all. But the royal family supposedly abide by certain rules. Edward & Mrs. S. didn't and he had abdicate and to leave the UK. H&M didn't and left. Yet C&C didn't and she still gets to become queen?

Possibly because in comparison to QE's other son, Charles is respectable?

I guess it's dumbing down and reducing their standards. Which will have a knock-on effect of reducing the efficacy of the crown. Not an issue for me. I'm not a monarchist. But either they abide by their own standards OR we have to admit that Edward should not have had to abdicate and Harry & Meghan can retain titles etc (state funded security anyone?) while living overseas.

That makes it all the more messed up then, really.
Poor Diana.

Gagajo glad you brought up marriages of those discussing this, I wonder how many who see Diana as a victim were sadly
victims of unfaithful husbands, I was only married 8 years so no problems. But how many have endured the pain that someone with mental health illness can cause

1 in 4 people have mental health issues, so a fair few, I would say.
In sickness and in health, though, are the vows, in case that is going to be used to justify infidelity.

Besides which, everyone would have known about Diana's issues, if they were all within the same circle growing up.

I was married longer, but I left. No affairs from either of us. Just unhappy marriage. I don't see any other way of viewing Diana. She was, as a long married friend of mine dubbed her, Rent-a-Womb.

Miss Adventure no, not being used to justify infidelity, in fact
not being ‘used’ .

I'm not sure why it was bought up then, in a conversation about whether Charles and camilla had an affair.

The abdication was back in 1936. Wallis Simpson had been divorced twice, at a time when divorce was much more unacceptable. It can’t really be compared with Charles and Diana’s divorce, 60 years later. Even in the RF, times have changed and moved on.

Except when it comes to taking up Diana's failings, it seems.
We never seem to move on from that on here.

Exactly, MissA. The sins of the mother, visited on the (2nd) son I guess.

No forgiveness. But for the future King, absolution.

You can't possibly compare the Duke and Duchess of Windsors situation with today as attitudes towards divorce 80 years ago were completely different. Divorce was terribly frowned upon in 1936 in all sections of society, friends , family were usually horrified and the perceived guilty party being ostracized was a surety. Until recently a divorced person couldn't remarry in church, my daughter was one of those people in the year 2001 and even though she had a no blame divorce, when she married again, registry office it was, with a church blessing afterwards . Edward couldn't possibly have married a twice divorced woman and remain king, still less head of the C of E. By the time we get to Charles and Camilla, attitudes thank goodness both secular and religious have changed. DH and I married in 1964 and have weathered the usual storms over 58 years and have no regrets, my daughter however did have storms that couldn't be weathered so she and he, called it day and are now happily with someone else . So, No, I don't disapprove of divorce, much better that than have a life of unhappiness.

Charles and Camilla were married in a registry office.

Diana had failings !

Jaberwok, attitudes have indeed changed and it’s a good thing. Divorce is always sad, but should not preclude the right to remarry and to live happily ever after.
If they had divorced and Diana had lived, would anyone on GN be criticising her choice of partner or dragging up her past?
Sadly, I think some would.

lemsip

Prince Harry Could Unveil Secrets in His Book That Will Be Devastating for His Stepmother Camilla, Former Royal Employee Says............
Since stepping down as a senior royal in 2020, Prince Harry has spoken his truth of what life behind palace walls was like for him. But the Duke of Sussex isn’t done airing out secrets about Britain’s most family. The prince is releasing a memoir in 2022 and many royals are reportedly upset over what he will reveal, but perhaps none more than Camilla Parker Bowles.

Both Harry and William have been interviewed expressing warm feelings towards the Duchess of Cornwall. If I remember correctly, Harry said what a nice person she was. I can't see him disrespecting her in a book.