Im going to put it out there - I have the upmost sympathy for Prince Harry.

Maybe Harry was spoilt and pampered and given into by his family because they actually sensed a very headstrong bolshy character there? You know how it is (or perhaps you don't) when you have a child who goes off the rails or rebels. You try to make excuses for them, or over indulge them or give into their demands just to keep the lines of communication open. The trouble is when that child decides to break away they often want the same favours accorded to them as a truculent adult.

Spot on Josieann, I think this describes Prince Harry perfectly and the family's particularly the Queens efforts to placate him over the years. Making exceptions for him when engaged and overlooking protocol in order to please him and later his wife. When Prince William expressed brotherly concerns about the speed of the relationship, he was greeted with a temper tantrum worthy of a three year old . The Queen finally had to say NO to him over certain matters when they left the RF and has reaped the venom from her Grandson ever since. Always difficult and entitled, now just horrible.

Who was there that witnessed the temper tantrum?

M0nica

Walking away from a life he cannot deal with has most people's support.

Turning on those who tried to help him, no matter how inept they were in doing it fills me with nothing but contempt.

Monica, you often post exactly what I feel and this post is no exception. Thank you.

He has the right to defend himself.

I am amazed at all the detailed knowledge here of things that have gone on behind closed doors!

Me too.
Then people get all cross about the things they've heard or imagined to have happened.

Defend himself against what ? Is criticising his grandparents
upbringing of their children a defence ?

But what is he defending himself over? He wanted to leave the duties of the RF behind and no one criticised him for that. He was criticised for wanting 'to have his cake and eat it'.

His entire family has remained dignified and quiet despite the awful allegations made during that joke of an 'interview' with Oprah, the most outrageous which were proved to be false.

Even the so called 'headlines' in newspapers and magazines had been manufactured/taken out of context to try and give their claims some validity.

A TV host and friend of M's, for weeks after that 'interview' was putting out 'information' about contact between H and his father and brother, fuelling the flames of the fire they'd lit.

Her only source was M; how else would she have known about the telephone conversations that had taken place?

To lose your AC due to estrangement is heart breaking. To have false accusations given as the reason(s) is soul destroying. To have it played out on the world stage is cruel and spiteful.

He is defending himself against media slurs and the sort of content that is present on this thread - when none of us know what goes on behind closed doors.

Maybe he is right about the upbringing of his father -it certainly appears that Charles suffered - most reports say that he was a sensitive child who struggled with his harsh schooling. I would imagine that most people brought up as the royals appear to have bene would have suffered.

I just feel it is wrong to criticise (and endorse the media vendetta) when no-one really knows what went on.

M0nica

Walking away from a life he cannot deal with has most people's support.

Turning on those who tried to help him, no matter how inept they were in doing it fills me with nothing but contempt.

This is exactly the point.

I have sympathy (not pity) with his difficulties.
But loathe his way of dealing with them.

It’s quite ironical to say no one knows what goes on behind closed doors and then follow that with definitive knowledge of Charles upbringing based on ‘reports’. ?

William's words of wisdom were reported in the Sussex book,'Finding Freedom'. Their mother also advised both of them to really get to know the girl they married as she, ruefully told Prince William that she hardly knew P.C before they married. Again, in the book.

It could be that his way of dealing with his difficulties is a response to the way he is being publicly attacked by people who know nothing, and the way he is being hounded by the media. He does not have the option to deal with it privately as the attacks are so very public.

I do not know whether he is a good or a bad person - indeed I do not know that of any of the royals - but I do know that he has been subjected to so much unacceptable public pressure. I do not want to be a part of that - it is deeply unpleasant.

Peasblossom

It’s quite ironical to say no one knows what goes on behind closed doors and then follow that with definitive knowledge of Charles upbringing based on ‘reports’. ?

I hear you and take your point.

But it is general knowledge that many young men have suffered from harsh public schooling and that it has influenced their relationships. Lots of them are governing this country - enough said!!

Then you have the same concerns for ‘lots of them governing
this country’ as you for Harry ?

Indeed so!

I don't agree that he is being hounded by the media Luckygirl and the fact that he isn't seems to fuel his desire to court publicity.

People comment on what he has said in interviews and in his book which is hardly them knowing nothing is it. We know what we've heard and what he's written.

It isn't seeing him as a bad person, it's commenting on the bad things he has done.

I am not sure what these bad things are.

He made a reasonable choice that he did not want to have the life that he was born into and that everyone expected him to stick with.

He then got slayed by the media, who seem to think he is public property.

He defended himself publicly, in the same way as he was hounded publicly.

Seems to me that he can't say anything without his tonsils being ripped out (metaphorically speaking) . I think he stands and speaks on behalf of a lot of good causes and if he wants to speak out then that's fine - after all, William and Kate do and they have almost been raised to sainthood.

If Harry felt the need to leave public life and live privately in L.A with his family everyone would have wished him well but he has behaved like a vindictive brat. He has lied and caused so much trouble for his Grandmother, even when she lost her Husband Harry had to dig the knife in. He is crying like a baby because his Father won't financially support him, what sane grown man expects their Father to pay? He is a poor excuse for a man and i thank the Lord that William was born first.

Hear,hear Grannypiper ,nobody I know has any problem with Harry wanting to leave the RH to live a quiet private life as they want to live it it's the bitterness,vindictiveness and pure spite directed at the people who do, and always have loved him that I can't be doing with. To conduct that interview when his grandfather,who he allegedly loved,was completely unfathomable . Did Meghan make him? Why would he allow that? Is he so dim that he doesn't realise the hurt he causes, or so thick skinned that he just doesn't care? How on earth could anyone cause that sort of hurt. Beyond belief

Sorry, 'was dying was etc'

Harry is trying to re invent himself for sure ....the americanisms in his vocabulary and his attire are testament to that fact! Fair enough.
Why then does he keep going on about his previous very British life all the time? There has to come a point when he let's go, but of course he won't be able to cash in on it then.

I think royal tittle tattle has a limited shelf life too both in content and public interest, how will he earn these extortionate sums of money when the scandal value dries up. I think it's begun to already so I expect he's already seeking financial pastures new.

I feel Harry is still hankering after his old life and didn't believe the Queen would refuse him his desire for part-time status. He won't blame the wife who wants no part of it therefore it must be his family's fault and he is taking out his frustration on them.
He should be able to move forward from his mother's death into the future he sought; a new life in a new country with the wife of his choice, two healthy children and a great deal of wealth to enjoy it.