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Im going to put it out there - I have the upmost sympathy for Prince Harry.

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Serendipity22 Tue 15-Feb-22 16:16:03

Ok, here goes, i really do feel for Harry, we see a Royal who must act and deliver as only a Royal can do, BUT that Royal is a human being just like each and everyone of us.

I am not getting into a debate about Megan, its Harry that i so feel for. I truthfully belive that the loss of his mum plays a HUGE part of all this tangled mess that is happening right now.

For 1 thing he shares my birthday ( hahaha true, but im just throwing it in the mix )

I travelled down to London for Diana's funeral, the streets were absolutely packed like sardines, punk rockers stood next to grandmas, every nation was stood together in united grief and we all watched as 2 boys walked behind their mums coffin, and those i stood next to cried, we all cried and i said to myself there and then, the time will arrive when they act upon this huge huge loss and i believe that time is now.

sadsad

maddyone Wed 16-Feb-22 18:31:37

…none of us knows what goes on behind closed doors.

No, but we know exactly what went on in the interview with Oprah, because it was broadcast to the entire world!

maddyone Wed 16-Feb-22 18:37:29

….publicly attacked by people who know nothing….

People do know something. They know exactly what was said during that appalling and defamatory interview which was broadcast to the world. To say people know nothing is wilfully ignoring what is known.

Josieann Wed 16-Feb-22 18:42:59

maddyone

^….publicly attacked by people who know nothing….^

People do know something. They know exactly what was said during that appalling and defamatory interview which was broadcast to the world. To say people know nothing is wilfully ignoring what is known.

Exactly. I watched it, start to finish.

maddyone Wed 16-Feb-22 18:46:00

I find it amazing that some posters do not see or acknowledge the truly vindictive behaviour of Harry. He has slated his family to the entire world! How can anyone defend that behaviour? It’s appalling!

trisher Wed 16-Feb-22 19:12:21

So it seems that Harry shouldn't say anything about his family or how he felt they treated him because that is vindictive. Funny that we don't apply the same standard to other sorts of mistreatment or family disfunction. Isn't it generally considered best that victims should speak out?
There is no doubt that he feels he suffered because of his family but apparently he should just put up and shut up.

lemsip Wed 16-Feb-22 19:15:27

He's a victim of his wife. he was alright till 'she told him how he felt,' he didn't know till then

maddyone Wed 16-Feb-22 19:19:29

Well that would certainly be a start trisher and perhaps an apology to his father and grandmother for the horrible things he has said about them to the entire world. I wonder how many of us would like it if our adult children went on television and said what dreadful parents we were. In my humble opinion, family difficulties and differences are best sorted out privately, often with help and support from a therapist or councellor. It is not conducive to harmony to air your grievances on television to the entire world. I’m surprised trisher that you think it is.

maddyone Wed 16-Feb-22 19:20:24

On the other hand, if you were being paid a few million for it, perhaps it would be an enticing thought!

Iam64 Wed 16-Feb-22 19:49:13

Harry certainly wasn’t ‘alright till his wife told him he wasn’t’.
He was using drugs and drinking heavily in early adolescence. Evidently, his father gave the two boys much more freedom than many parents would have. Unsupervised get togethers with access to alcohol and drugs.
When the extent of Harry’s substance misuse became known, H was taken to meet people with drug and alcohol problems

Serendipity22 Wed 16-Feb-22 21:02:23

We only know what the press feed us with, I stick to my guns regarding having the utmost sympathy for Harry, none of us can possibly possibly know what his life must be like, but what we definitely do know is that he lost his mum at such a young age and his dad married the woman who he was responsible for the break up of their marriage ( or so we're lead to believe ).

Terrible sadsadsad

Sparklefizz Wed 16-Feb-22 21:06:34

We only know what the press feed us with,

No, because Harry tells us himself, either via 90 minutes of complaints on Oprah, or in the books he is involved with.

Janamax Wed 16-Feb-22 21:14:06

What makes me laugh is how we all think we have a right to judge his behaviour based on what the gossipy tabloids tell us. I bet if any of us were in his shoes, we'd have a shock as to how nasty the attacks on him have been.

Beswitched Wed 16-Feb-22 21:15:23

He seems very misguided and is behaving a bit like a bull in a China shop at the moment. If he wished to escape the whole royal circus and build a simpler and more meaningful life elsewhere I think that would have been commendable.

But he doesn't seem to know what he wants and seems to have cut himself off from those who really care for him. I do feel sorry for him. I genuinely don't think he fully understands the consequences of his behaviour. He seems to be a very mixed up and troubled man.

Janamax Wed 16-Feb-22 21:16:14

We only know what the press feed us with,

No, because Harry tells us himself, either via 90 minutes of complaints on Oprah, or in the books he is involved with.

After years of vicious gossip from the tabloids he has every right to put his side of the story.

Josieann Wed 16-Feb-22 21:31:43

Did you know that Harry and Meghan's interview at the time was watched by over 50 million people worldwide? That figure is the entire population of Spain or nearly the whole of England in terms of numbers. 50 million people listened to H & M as themselves, and not in any role where they needed to hold back or be given speaking points to follow. Yes, he had every right to put his side of the story, but even if only half the 50 million saw through them, that is huge anumber of people who believe they fabricated the truth..

maddyone Wed 16-Feb-22 22:24:40

Yes indeed, how many people would trash their family to 50 million people? I find it almost unbelievable that some people/posters blame the press and seem to think the press somehow made everything up and fed it to a gullible public. No, that is not what happened, Meghan and Harry told 50 million people all over the world how dreadfully the royal family treated them. That same public who saw the lavish wedding put on for Harry and Meghan and saw the house they were given (on which they had no mortgage or rent to pay like other couples just starting out) and saw that millions was spent on that house in order to style and furnish it to the couples specifications, and that Prince Charles gave them two million a year to live on and walked Meghan down the isle after she fell out with her father. And on it goes. How terribly they were treated. Whatever mental health issues Harry may have, he won’t find the cure in speaking despicably about his family to 50 million people. If he has mental health issues, and we don’t know that he has, then he needs extensive therapy with a fully qualified psychologist. Speaking to the world and writing books will not make him better, although the millions he will be paid might be very attractive to him. Has anyone considered that he might simply want the money since his father won’t support him any longer, as he said very clearly in the Oprah interview.
I’m rather pleased that my two sons who are a similar age to Harry, don’t expect me to pay for their upkeep and they actually go out and earn their own their own keep.

Zoejory Wed 16-Feb-22 22:30:35

I'm just guessing those who ascertain that we only know what we know due to the press have never seen the Oprah interview or heard Harry rambling on and on.

Sadly, we know only too well what we know because it came out of Harry and Meghan's mouths.

Their truth as Oprah said. Well there is only one truth. The actual truth. And it's quite evident that there were more than a few untruths.

I was very pleased they had decided to quite the RF at the time. Wonderful that they could forge a life out for themselves in private. However I was rather naive. It was clearly not their intention to live a quiet life. The only way they can make money is by trashing his family.

I wonder if he'll live to regret it.

lemsip Wed 16-Feb-22 23:13:56

well, what makes me laugh is the people who go on about the press and say.....
''We only know what the press feed us with,'' The press are governed by laws ' don't you know?' and can be sued for libel if they 'feed us lies'
I can only presume some people don't keep up with current affairs and then come on here doubting everything.... when they know nothing! there you go!

FannyCornforth Thu 17-Feb-22 06:23:08

maddy your post at 22.24 ? ?
I’d forgotten that Charles walked Meghan down the aisle. Such a little thing in the grand scheme , but sad

LullyDully Thu 17-Feb-22 08:18:57

My American friend describes Megan as a cult and I fear she has hit the nail on the head.

Josieann Thu 17-Feb-22 08:21:53

LullyDully

My American friend describes Megan as a cult and I fear she has hit the nail on the head.

But without many members?

Janamax Thu 17-Feb-22 08:33:10

It's more than just a little ironic that in the news today, the REAL scandal of the Queen's second son paying off his sexual abuse accuser - probably with taxpayers money - yet here we are STILL complaining about another Prince who is making a very successful life for himself away from his toxic family.

Freya5 Thu 17-Feb-22 08:34:04

Esspee

I used to really like Harry and I loved it when he married Megan. I thought she and he together would blow a breath of fresh air into the royal family.
Note that is all past tense.

Actually I thought it was William and Kate that would bring fresh air and new ideas to the RF. They certainly have, always there to join in, supporting the Queen, and I’m sure Charles when he succeeeds. A bit of an all rounder is our Duchess. It is such a shame to see, when it’s put in front of me, the misery that Harry has become.

Janamax Thu 17-Feb-22 08:39:20

LullyDully

My American friend describes Megan as a cult and I fear she has hit the nail on the head.

Not as big as the Queen's cult following, I bet.

Freya5 Thu 17-Feb-22 08:48:06

Janamax

LullyDully

My American friend describes Megan as a cult and I fear she has hit the nail on the head.

Not as big as the Queen's cult following, I bet.

The Queen has served this country well over the past 70 years though, Meghan only serves herself. Took what she wanted and ran.