Im going to put it out there - I have the upmost sympathy for Prince Harry.

Peasblossom good post at 10.32

Peasblossom

I suppose I feel indignant about it because my contacts are in Africa. They were so excited when the charity was set up and with Harry’s very involved, personal approach.

Now they are sad and feel abandoned by him, who was their main high profile supporter. His only interest his own publicity.

And yes, to a certain extent, exploited again by a rich, white, European.

How is it "exploitation" to arrive at the main fundraiser for a charity and to pledge money.
If your contacts are in Africa how on earth do they know what went on in Colarado. Apart from gossip of course.
Perhaps they should blame the rest of the royal family. As he is now responsible for paying for his own security I would imagine trips to Africa and other regions would be unaffordable. Queenie could pay out of her vast wealth of course but bet she wouldn't.

I would hope any charity would refuse a donation that came from 'Prince Harry's bombshell book', but I doubt they will.

If Prince Harry has mental health issues then the best way forward would be to seek treatment from a fully qualified therapist. This type of therapy takes many months and often years but will hopefully lead to some resolution of the problem. I believe Harry has said he has received some therapy from what the media have reported, but if the media reports lies, maybe this is not true. However resolution certainly cannot be found by addressing the world with his grievances, or by writing books or by giving interviews. Resolution is found by hard work with a therapist over a long time.

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You have no idea if he is in therapy or not maddyone but saying your first statement showed a distinct lack of empathy for anyone with mental health problems.

trisher

You have no idea if he is in therapy or not maddyone but saying your first statement showed a distinct lack of empathy for anyone with mental health problems.

Apologies it wasn't your post. maddyone I completely withdraw this post and aologise for any offence.

Josieann

I don't know what he did at the polo match, other than I assume play the game. But seeing as Aspen is 1000 miles from his home town and that he travelled there and back by private jet, isn't that a bit hypotrical when he lectures the rest of the world about our carbon footprint? That is what people don't find endearing about him.

Damned if he does, damned if he doesn't. Can't win poor bloke can he?

Why would the Queen, or anyone else in the royal family pay for security for Harry? The only people in the royal family who receive full time security are:
1) the Queen
2) Prince Charles (direct heir to the throne) and his wife
3) Prince William (direct heir to the throne) and his family
No other members of the royal family receive full time security. When engaged on public duties, Princess Anne and Prince Edward and his wife receive security.
The security is provided by the Metropolitan Police.
So why would Harry be treated differently to all the other members of the royal family?

Apology accepted trisher

As you may have guessed from my post rrisher I have some experience of mental health difficulties in my own family.

trisher I mean.

maddyone

Why would the Queen, or anyone else in the royal family pay for security for Harry? The only people in the royal family who receive full time security are:
1) the Queen
2) Prince Charles (direct heir to the throne) and his wife
3) Prince William (direct heir to the throne) and his family
No other members of the royal family receive full time security. When engaged on public duties, Princess Anne and Prince Edward and his wife receive security.
The security is provided by the Metropolitan Police.
So why would Harry be treated differently to all the other members of the royal family?

Because he would be doing good?
Because they can afford it?
Because they care about him?
Because Sentebale people would like to see him?
Because he has no other protection and he needs it because of the family he was born into?
Take your choice

At least he's not in the papers for having had to 'pay people off' for things.....

Because he has no other protection and he needs it because of the family he was born into? - the most important point. He did not choose to be born into this family.

trisher

halfpint1

If my son blurted out his pain like Harry to the public ,I would be worried he had mental problems.

I believe Harry has already admitted to that and urged others to seek support. Any one (including my sons) who admits to mental health problems and seeks help has my 100% support. For far too long it was something which people never spoke about. Growing up with it in the family was a nightmare.

Good post trisha, I’m 100% with your post. My family has experience of loved ones with mental health problems. As you say, living with it is a nightmare.

Harry has been open about his m.h, problems, hoping to encourage others to be open and seek help. No doubt those who can’t find it in themselves to feel compassion may accuse him of seeking the limelight. Of having it so much easier than others, of exaggerating.

There is no doubt in my mind that Harry’s experiences in childhood and early adolescence contributed to drugs/alcohol and other difficulties.

No wonder people struggle alone with their mental health issues, if they're then judged so harshly, is all I can say.

We do MissA, though I am always open about my own problems. However in my experience navel gazing and banging on and on about your problems as Harry does doesn’t make them go away. Quite the reverse.

I suppose he is yet to learn that, and of course, I suspect he isn't being encouraged to engage in a more healthy way.

It’s so passe as well (I’m saying this slightly tongue in cheek),
but they’ve been ahead of the curve for years in the states re MH issues.

It’s been a running joke that wealthy, privileged Americans have their therapists on speed dial.
It’s a bit coals to Newcastle isn’t it?

A bit like the ex husbands wife in Ab Fab (not a patch on the young ones or bottom, though)

Many of us on here have dealt with mental health issues within the family for years. It seriously destroys families, There is no easy answer to it unfortunately.

The person in question needs to reach the point of wanting help and then the process starts along that rocky road.
I think with Harry his need to keep talking and writing about it, is part of his "therapy" (from his own point of view) and if that helps him I am glad.

I doubt very much if the RF would have even seen or offered to help Harry with his problems. All families have their issues but who would want to be part of the RF.
He was deeply scarred by the loss of his mother; sometimes these things never get better it is just a matter, and a long journey, of accepting what has happened.

I hope he reaches the point of accepting and healing from all the things in the past but it is a huge ask.

There’s no sign that what he says publicly and the books he’s writing are helping him at all. I can only say from my own experience that focusing on the bad things in your life only makes you feel a great deal worse. Finding other things to focus on is a positive step forward. Nothing you can do will ever make the bad stuff that’s happened go away but you can make things a whole lot worse for yourself and those around you.

It is good to see some recognition of shared humanity creeping into this thread.

None of us can really know what it is like to be born into the UK royal family. Clearly it is a challenge for many for lots of reasons. They all have to find ways of dealing with this, and I for one wish them well, especially Harry who seems to attract greater bile than even Andrew.

I wish him and his little family every success in overcoming those things that have caused him pain, and a happy future.

Luckygirl3

trisher and Janamax - exactly.

We must not let ourselves be led by the nose by the media who like nothing better than a baddie story to get their teeth into.

I used to work on a national magazine and once had a major row with the editor. I was gleaning news and found a story relevant to the mag about a Traveller boy being run over on a roadside site. His first comment? ..... "Oh great - did he die?" This is how their minds work. They just love a bit of negative stuff. He got very short shrift from me.

I also worked in publishing during the Wapping strikes and was warned by many how toxic and damaging Rupert Murdoch would be to the British press. Everything about that man that I was warned about has come to pass.