Beautiful memorial service for Prince Philip

volver

But you are lumping all republicans together. You are saying that Drakeford couldn't possibly admire the good parts about the DoE because he's a republican, so that's it. No discussion.

And now you're trying to say some republicans should go to Russia. Its really offensive, you know?

No, it's not because someone was advocating that on here not long ago.

Quite gleefully, in fact.

Thats possible but its not a general viewpoint on here. I am a republican I have never called for a revolution. Too much effort to be honest. Not only that I would be absolutely furious if the political party I support started suggesting the abolition of the monarchy. Mostly because it would mean defeat in the next election.

volver

But you are lumping all republicans together. You are saying that Drakeford couldn't possibly admire the good parts about the DoE because he's a republican, so that's it. No discussion.

And now you're trying to say some republicans should go to Russia. Its really offensive, you know?

I was just saying "Be careful what you wish for".

If we look at the history of Russia has it been better since 1917 or not?
The evidence is there.

If you think that is offensive I'm sorry.

But you are choosing an autocratic regime and telling us that's what we could end up with if we had a republic. There's a long list of countries that are republics and are not waging war on their neighbours.

So you are suggesting that people who want a republic are as bad as warmongering autocrats. It's offensive.

I have always declared that I wish no harm to members of the RF.
It is the the system I do not like.

I don't know members of RF to like or dislike them. Media reports about their individual poor/ good behaviour& choices gives a superficial idea of their personalities. In my professional capacity I did meet Princess Ann at an award do at Buck House. She was extremely good at her job. That in itself does not make her a wonderful or dreadful person.
Like any celebs some people will like them and defend them regardless , equally those less enamoured will see the "faults" .

volver

But you are choosing an autocratic regime and telling us that's what we could end up with if we had a republic. There's a long list of countries that are republics and are not waging war on their neighbours.

So you are suggesting that people who want a republic are as bad as warmongering autocrats. It's offensive.

Oh, I'm still learning from all the newcomers!!!

I'm also a Republican. And I have a soft spot for the Queen, I think she's done her job - which must be tedious at times - well, she's stoic and dedicated and, as I've said previously, when she goes, we will not see her like again.

... and neither do I want a Revolution - of any kind. Just a natural - organic - move away from Monarchy which I believe is outdated.

Sensible post PECS

They are people doing a job, after all.
Unfortunately for them, not one most can resign from.

and neither do I want a Revolution - of any kind. Just a natural - organic - move away from Monarchy which I believe is outdated

Me neither but of some posts not long ago I remember some which were quite sickening.

I hope by George's time things may change, gradually and not either violently or by an embarrassing rejection after all HM has done in devoting her life to the position she inherited.

We are, I hope, more civilised now.

If we became a Republic it would be possible to choose what power,if any, we gave to a ' president'. It could just be titular , non political role to replicate the role of a monarch..presiding over state visits, national events etc.. Would be a good role for Attenborough! I have seen a suggestion that a selection process could include Joe & Jo Public

Would be a good role for Attenborough!

It would, but he's the same age as the Queen!

I think we're looking 15 - 25 years ahead.
If David Attenborough is still up for the job I'll vote for him
If I'm still around, of course ?

Callistemon21

^and neither do I want a Revolution - of any kind. Just a natural - organic - move away from Monarchy which I believe is outdated^

Me neither but of some posts not long ago I remember some which were quite sickening.

I hope by George's time things may change, gradually and not either violently or by an embarrassing rejection after all HM has done in devoting her life to the position she inherited.

We are, I hope, more civilised now.

There are always those in any movement who are up for the 'extreme' process.

And I personally really dislike being judged by the actions of such extremists. Those who use words like "scum" to describe their opponents and admit they're not averse to a bit of violence to get what they want frankly give me the shivers.

Republicans, like Labour party supporters / Tory party supporters / Feminists... you name it, are not a homogenous group.

I don't hate any member of the RF, though some have a public persona that I don't like, but that's not the same thing. I wish ill on none of them, and certainly don't want to see them ousted in any kind of bloody revolution. When you sop seeing your opponents as human beings first and foremost, it's dangerous territory.

When you sop seeing your opponents as human beings first and foremost, it's dangerous territory

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I find it odd, too that posters who tease constantly take such comments from others so seriously!

The Prince of Wales was crowned the hardest working Royal back in 2019 - after completing 521 engagements.

This is the equivalent of 'working' 74 and a half days - a measly fraction of the average full-time worker, who puts in more than 240 days a year

And that would be fine if Charles was on a pro-rata salary and just looking for a little bit of cash to fund his gardening projects. But no, the Royal has a personal income of more than £20 million - meaning he gets to shake people's hands and poses for photos for an eye-watering £38,000 an hour.

We need to get rid of the idea that any of the royals are hard-working. It's an insult to teachers, to NHS workers, to those scraping by on minimum wage while the monarchy's only job is to protect itself.

grany you must spend hours every day reading about the royal family, don’t you get bored ?

? Anniebach!

Callistemon21

? Anniebach!

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To work out how long each of the 251 engagements lasted and
then work out they equaled 74 and 1/2 working days , ? , with respect that is a worrying obsession

I can do it in my head, if you like.

2 1/2 hours per engagement, times 251, 627 hours, divide by 8, approx. 74 1/2 working days

No obsession. Just really good at arithmetic

I cannot, however, tell you what colour dress Kate was wearing on the 23rd June 2011. I'm sure there are some that can.

And - does the engagement time include travel time to, between and home from them too? It would need to if you want an accurate picture. (Not that I care in the slightest, but I’m sure Grany knows the answer because she knows everything there is to know about the Royals)

Well, some of them are undoubtedly phone calls. For which I'm sure he doesn't do the actual dialling...he probably has a chap for that.

Casdon do you and all the people you know get paid for travel time? Things are certainly different in your part of teh UK if thats the case.

Anniebach

grany you must spend hours every day reading about the royal family, don’t you get bored ?

Whereas…

Yes paddyann in jobs where you are travelling extensively as an integral part of your role you do, of course, get paid your travel time as working hours. You aren’t expected to get up at 6am, travel from London to say Newcastle, carry out a full days work and then travel home again, arriving at say 9pm if it’s a requirement of your job and tomorrow you’re in say Cornwall. Most companies will deduct your normal home to office base time and pay you any hours above that.

I never got paid travel time over and above my basic salary.

Is that another Royal perk?