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Beautiful memorial service for Prince Philip

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snowberryZ Tue 29-Mar-22 17:29:17

Just that really.
I thought the Queen looked amazing, considering the time she's had. She looked so dignified as well.
I sort of agree with PA helping her in. After all, he is her son and it's a memorial service for his father.
Also it's a way of showing certain absent members that 'this is what loyalty' in a family looks like.

The children were beautifully behaved and doesn't Princess Charlotte have a look of the Queen about her?shock

It does seem a bit sad that Harry wasnt there.
If this was any ordinary family I suppose we would be saying he has gone No Contact with Prince Charles and that he and the Queen are estrangedparents/grandparents!
Seems a bit cruel to do that to an old lady, in what could be one of her last public engagements.
But that is my opinion.
I'm sure the PH fanclub will be along in a minute to disagree. hmm

Other than that, it was a lovely service.

Casdon Fri 01-Apr-22 13:43:38

If you’re on a salary you travel in your work time so you’re being paid anyway, and organise your meetings accordingly though volver don’t you, which amounts to the same thing.

volver Fri 01-Apr-22 13:49:26

I have got up in the morning at 3am to catch the early flight to Paris and didn't get back until about 11pm. Then into work the next day.

Which is why I find it a bit hard to take when I'm told that the Royals work really hard.

Pantglas2 Fri 01-Apr-22 13:54:26

Standard practice in public service that any travel from your normal place of work to another venue is paid working hours - unions wouldn’t allow anything else would they? If it’s good enough for us...

PECS Fri 01-Apr-22 14:02:41

Pantglas I might ask for some back pay..all those residential school journeys..on duty 24/7....

Is that only be for civil servants...?

Daisend1 Fri 01-Apr-22 14:03:10

I was overwhelmed watching the memorial service wondering how the Queen must have felt where her grandson Prince Harry presence was made noticeable by his absence

Anniebach Fri 01-Apr-22 14:09:15

The Queen’s seven grandchildren were there so doubt absence
of one was of concern

Callistemon21 Fri 01-Apr-22 14:55:25

I cannot, however, tell you what colour dress Kate was wearing on the 23rd June 2011. I'm sure there are some that can
I'm sure it was blue.

Don't forget travel time either!

Callistemon21 Fri 01-Apr-22 14:56:08

Casdon

If you’re on a salary you travel in your work time so you’re being paid anyway, and organise your meetings accordingly though volver don’t you, which amounts to the same thing.

Oops, sorry, I saw that afterwards.

RTWT

Callistemon21 Fri 01-Apr-22 14:59:16

PECS

Pantglas I might ask for some back pay..all those residential school journeys..on duty 24/7....

Is that only be for civil servants...?

Certainly not PECS
I don't remember being paid from leaving home at 6.30 to catch a train to wherever then getting home at 10 pm, only just for the standard week.
Of course, there's always the on-call allowance for those who might get called out at any unearthly hour.

paddyann54 Fri 01-Apr-22 15:18:56

Nope ,never have been paid for 200 mile round trips ,your wage was your wage .My son worked for a short time a sa salesman....he was all over the country literally ,if he didn't make the sale he didn't get paid and he had to pay for his own travel ...this wasn't in the last century o
r even the last decade

Callistemon21 Fri 01-Apr-22 15:45:52

However, travel time or not travel time, there is a lot of work that goes on out of public view too, not just time spent on public appearances.

PECS Fri 01-Apr-22 16:42:31

callistemon My father, a civil servant, had to travel when he worked for the then DSS, chairing tribunals. I believe he could retrospectively claim travel and hotel costs including breakfast & dinner..not lunch or alcohol. He treated his expenses as a bonus..which my mum endlessly pointed out it was not... and we would be taken out for a treat or he would buy a gadget , new book or toy for us!

Gilly3 Fri 01-Apr-22 18:03:12

Grany's maths is correct, it is 521 engagements for PC. Mind you an hour would be long enough for me with him.

Callistemon21 Fri 01-Apr-22 18:10:57

PECS I remember a couple of colleagues and I once spent our meal allowance on afternoon tea at the Pump Rooms in Bath.
Well, it was too late for lunch and too early for dinner and we had time to fill before our train home.
Very nice it was too!

Callistemon21 Fri 01-Apr-22 18:14:58

Gilly3

Grany's maths is correct, it is 521 engagements for PC. Mind you an hour would be long enough for me with him.

So can you imagine what it must be like for him spending so much time talking to so many people - some must be inspiring but some will be tedious and boring (or even worse, gushing).

Anniebach Fri 01-Apr-22 18:32:28

Gilly you know how long every engagement takes ? Do tell,
how long to meet someone starting a business through
The Prince’s Trust, to visit a farming area, meeting a head of
state, attending the opening of The Senydd ?

volver Fri 01-Apr-22 18:51:28

Here you go. Prince Charles' office told us. Surely they'd know? ?

www.republic.org.uk/hard_working_royals

I over estimated. I was too generous ??

Callistemon21 Fri 01-Apr-22 20:50:07

Well, it's more than I'm doing workwise but I am a bit older than Charles so I'm allowed!

How about others on here?
Or is posting on Gransnet counted as work now?

PECS Fri 01-Apr-22 21:44:32

My DH is a similar age to PC. DH works most days ..some days he works from home writing reports but he meets different people, makes decisions, offers encouragement & advice...and makes all his own arrangements & drives himself to appointments, puts petrol in the car in himself, picks up a sandwich,loads the washing machine, goes to the tip, ferries the DGC to & from clubs etc. , picks up a bit of shopping, jet washes the patio, puts his own toothpaste on the brush, dresses himself, irons his own clothes.......

Calendargirl Sat 02-Apr-22 07:22:22

Just looked at a clip of the memorial service, showing Princess Beatrice in tears as the Queen took her seat at the start of the service.

Despite what anyone thinks about the rights and wrongs of Andrew escorting his aged mother, my heart went out to her.

She must have felt that her dear grandmother will not be at many more occasions such as this, plus thinking about her grandfather, and she was visibly upset. She held her service sheet in front of her face until she could compose herself and begin to sing.

Whitewavemark2 Sat 02-Apr-22 07:55:44

She was probably crying because she had just found out that not only was her father involved in sex trafficking, but now her parents have been involved in a fraud.

Naturally Windsor knows nothing about it, and in any case has paid back the money fraudulently obtained.

Anniebach Sat 02-Apr-22 08:03:35

Or she loved her grandfather , loves her grandmother and her
parents,

Pantglas2 Sat 02-Apr-22 08:14:14

Probably true Anniebach

how lovely it must feel to be one of those people who’ve never wept over a family member’s misdeeds - I certainly wasn’t blessed with perfect relations or maybe I’m less judgmental!

Gilly3 Sat 02-Apr-22 08:27:11

Maybe hormones and stuff. She only had a baby 6 months ago.

Mollygo Sat 02-Apr-22 08:34:43

Whitewavemark2

She was probably crying because she had just found out that not only was her father involved in sex trafficking, but now her parents have been involved in a fraud.

That’s a nasty comment on this particular thread.