Beautiful memorial service for Prince Philip

Lucca

I’m not a supporter of harry and Meghan in spite of what some think and say. But:
“We are not interested in Meghan and harry” is nonsense. No opportunity is ever passed by to mention them.

Imagine the scenario. harry and Meghan both come to the memorial …oh it’s the harry and Meghan show.
Harry comes on his own…..oh how disrespectful that Meghan couldn’t be bothered to come.
Harry comes and sits next to William…..surely he should be in the row behaving ?
Harry comes and doesn’t sit next to William…..clearly harry doesn’t want to be with his brother.

... exactly!

He would've been damned if he'd come, and now he's damned because he didn't.

“We are not interested in Meghan and harry” is nonsense. No opportunity is ever passed by to mention them.

Our 'poor' Queen probably copes with the whole affair far better than most of the commenters. She's 95 years old and has learned a thing or two, as most of the elderly do.

If people are really sympathetic towards her, the kindest thing they could do is just shut up about H&M and let the media furore over these two die a natural death. Not keep heaping coals on the fire.

The heads of State at the memorial service are descendants of
Victoria so very distant relations

H & M don't want the media furore
to die a death. That is the pproblem.
More to come next month.

Hazysky

H & M don't want the media furore
to die a death. That is the pproblem.
More to come next month.

Media attention directed at their 'projects' and involvement in various charities, or whatever it is they actually do, is not the same as the media frenzy over reporting every move they make, what Meghan wore to which event and what it (media) thinks they are going / not going, to do, and why, and sources close to the couple said that..... or this about them.

... and then inviting comments from the readership.

The press is not informing us, it's not giving us news that it thinks we need to know, it's pandering to the conjecture and gossip. Which it does frequently with other high-profile individuals, to maintain its circulation, in print and online. It's a never-ending feed of speculation, and its readers thrive on it.

I love it - well done! - ‘Welsh Labour Government has said it will only distribute copies of the Queen’s 70th Jubilee book on an opt in basis to schools that actively ask for copies. The Welsh First Minister Mark Drakeford is a self-confessed republican’

All 18 of these royals live in state owned homes, mainly in St James's Palace, Kensington Palace or Windsor. They pay little or no rent at a huge cost to the taxpayer. Most of them do very little in return. They also have second, third and fourth homes.

After William and Kate's 'charm offensive' in the Caribbean last week, their three host nations have all declared they will become republics...

I wish that man had the cojones of his convictions and had refused to turn up on Tuesday at Westminster, if he’s a republican, and stayed at home to rescue our healthcare in north Wales from the devastating effects of his party’s mismanagement ever since devolution, Grany.

Can you imagine if Drakeford hadn't gone to the memorial?

The Daily Express would have self combusted.

I don't love it Grany

Pantglas yes, he was there, bold as brass - I am disappointed that he didn't stand up for what he believed if he is a republican and send another Welsh politician who is not a republican in his place.
Hypocritical.

I thought better of him.

Is Mark Drakeford going to ban young Welsh people from taking the D of E award?

I don't suppose it has crossed anybody's mind that Drakeford might have been there to show respect to a person we are told is the best of men?

I suspect that there were a few people in the Abbey who weren't Christians, either.

Gosh volver if that was the outcome of him not attending the service it would have been so worthwhile.

I didn’t know Drakeford was there , yes hypocrisy

Self combustion of the Daily Express I mean!

??

Sunak and Patel were there, at least one of them singing their heart out at the hymns.

David Attenborough, who is a humanist, I believe, was also there.

Hypocrisy?

I suspect Drakeford is savvy enough to know that whatever his personal beliefs a lot of the Welsh population don’t share them Callistemon21, so I highly doubt he will do anything controversial. The DoE award is a brilliant thing I think (although I do pity the granddaughter of the Gran who posted this morning to say she is doing her gold award in the Beacons at the moment, as it’s terrible weather up on the mountains today).

That is not the point at all, is it.

I don't suppose it has crossed anybody's mind that Drakeford might have been there to show respect to a person we are told is the best of men?
But he was a member of the Royal Family and so was despised by republicans as is so frequently demonstrated on these threads.

Yes, It was a memorial service to honour a man who did so much during his life to support young people, was a founder of WWF, actively supported many charities and just coincidentally happened to be a member of the royal family which meant he also supported our Head of State and Head of Commonwealth for decades.

But none of that counts to some.

Sorry, Casdon, my previous post was addressed to volver, it took me a while to type it.
I haven't got to grips with the two thumbs method!

The DoE award is a brilliant thing I think (although I do pity the granddaughter of the Gran who posted this morning to say she is doing her gold award in the Beacons at the moment, as it’s terrible weather up on the mountains today)

Oh goodness, after last week's lovely weather too!
We can't pick and choose in this country.
DH has a couple of tales about camping up there during training in thick fog.

Callistemon21

That is not the point at all, is it.

I don't suppose it has crossed anybody's mind that Drakeford might have been there to show respect to a person we are told is the best of men?
But he was a member of the Royal Family and so was despised by republicans as is so frequently demonstrated on these threads.

Yes, It was a memorial service to honour a man who did so much during his life to support young people, was a founder of WWF, actively supported many charities and just coincidentally happened to be a member of the royal family which meant he also supported our Head of State and Head of Commonwealth for decades.

But none of that counts to some.

But that's where you are completely wrong Callistemon21.

It seems that people do not understand that is is possible to disapprove of a particular system of government without "despising" individual people. I don't "despise" any member of the RF, although Prince Andrew comes close. I do think that as an institution they rely on tradition and deference to keep themselves in their privileged positions. But I don't despise them. I've got quite a soft spot for Anne.

Perhaps when Monarchists can understand that we don't want a Russian-Revolution style day of reckoning, but a change to the system of government, then we might be able to have a grown up discussion about Republicanism. Until then, you will continue to see us as something we're not, and I can't do anything about that.

But I don't despise them

I do not mean you specifically and yes, I understand your viewpoint.
I am a pragmatic, not fervent, monarchist, liking the continuity and stability, but if they abdicated as family I wouldn't criticise them in the slightest. Who would want that burden?

However, there are republican posters on here and outside of Gransnet whose comments are personal, disparaging and quite vile.
I think some would relish the thought of a French or Russian style revolution.
Would they make their way to Russa just now to enjoy the liberties there?

Why does it have to be one or another viewpoint?

Many of us aren't extremists.

I think its possible to be a republican and not want to move to Russia. I am not sure I have seen anyone on here calling for a revolution.

But you are lumping all republicans together. You are saying that Drakeford couldn't possibly admire the good parts about the DoE because he's a republican, so that's it. No discussion.

And now you're trying to say some republicans should go to Russia. Its really offensive, you know?

Galaxy

I think its possible to be a republican and not want to move to Russia. I am not sure I have seen anyone on here calling for a revolution.

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