Pamper parties for children

Is it?
If you say so.

Again maybe take the moment to educate yourself on the amazing exhibits victims have spent countless hours debunking some of the BS posted here

I'm sure I would, if I understood that sentence.

www.herts.ac.uk/about-us/news-centre/news/2021/university-of-hertfordshire-exhibition-tackles-sexual-assault-myth

Here you go

Bibbity

Again maybe take the moment to educate yourself on the amazing exhibits victims have spent countless hours debunking some of the BS posted here

What on earth are you on about. In fact I wonder why you post on Gransnet if our world-view is so inferior to Mumsnet's?

And the vast majority of posters on here have not mentioned paedophilia or brought it into the debate in any way. I certainly haven't so please stop making things up.

There have been comments suggesting pamper parties sexualise children which leads to them attracting attention from men they don’t know how to deal with.
Paedophiles are sexually attracted to children, some to a specific age group, including babies or infants. Nail varnish is totally irrelevant. Pamper parties don’t sexualise children.
It’s a relief to see some grans here enjoying the fun children get from dressing up, playing makeup, having painted nails. One of mine had her nails done while mummy had her hair cut. She loved it but by tea time the varnish was gone. She’d been to the park and helped tack the pony for her riding lesson. Lucky girl

Iam64

There have been comments suggesting pamper parties sexualise children which leads to them attracting attention from men they don’t know how to deal with.
Paedophiles are sexually attracted to children, some to a specific age group, including babies or infants. Nail varnish is totally irrelevant. Pamper parties don’t sexualise children.
It’s a relief to see some grans here enjoying the fun children get from dressing up, playing makeup, having painted nails. One of mine had her nails done while mummy had her hair cut. She loved it but by tea time the varnish was gone. She’d been to the park and helped tack the pony for her riding lesson. Lucky girl

There have been one or two comments of that nature. But suggesting I should have the 'guts' to start this thread on mumsnet implies that was the purpose of this thread It wasn't.

I’ve just re-read your OP and have to say my under 5 year old grandchildren love pass the parcel. They all enjoy musical statues, hide n seek and all the golden oldies. Adding up to date party experiences is ok.

On a rainy Sunday afternoon in January my daughter said to hers ‘let’s have a pamper session together’. It cost nothing- cucumber slices on my 5y old L’il Miss’ eyes gave me a chuckle when I saw the photos! A foot spa, baby pink nail polish kept on just for the weekend. A delightful couple of hours spent happily doing something different together. I’m with GG13 all the way on this topic.

If you look, you’ll find surely? What about bikinis on little bodies? Pierced earlobes as babies (very popular here in Spain when only weeks old!).

Little girls like ‘copying mummy’. Harmless fun in my opinion.

they don’t give a damn about what the child is wearing !! What planet are you on?
I know two women whose husband’s have been arrested for paedophile’ activity’. Seeing what the children were wearing, and what these men were looking at...was the first thing the police were drawn to.

DiscoDancer1975

^they don’t give a damn about what the child is wearing^ !! What planet are you on?
I know two women whose husband’s have been arrested for paedophile’ activity’. Seeing what the children were wearing, and what these men were looking at...was the first thing the police were drawn to.

I’m not disputing this is what you (or the wives) were told by the perpetrators, but this isn’t really how the police track online paedophilia.

It is, however, one of a plethora of victim blaming excuses paedophiles use to ‘justify’ their belief that children are sexually aware and willing.

Going back to the beauty pageants, I wonder how those little girls cope when they grow up. The vast majority of them will not have a future in fashion modelling, but their school work must surely suffer from the time they devote to preparing for and travelling to these pageants. Also do they get any time to develop other interests and talents?
Their parents seem to be teaching them that all their worth is centred around their looks. That must be very damaging long term.

Yes Zonne, they were under suspicion for a while I think. The images just clinched it.

There’s nothing wrong with dressing up at home, wearing mum’s makeup, clothes. I did it. So did my girls. Well....not makeup, I didn’t own any. No, it’s going to establishments....adult establishments....which makes me queasy.

Earrings on babies is gross in my opinion. They have not asked for that.

It’s all about the parents doing what they want, with no consideration for the child.

I would think it skews their values. Everything is about appearance and winning. Also they seem to travel long distances to attend all the pageants which would mean time to pursue healthier childhood interests is reduced - maybe even time spent on school work.

I feel so sorry for those children. They should be out playing with their friends, riding around on bikes, building dens, throwing balls around and having fun in parks and playgrounds.

Instead they're spending hours practicing inappropriate routines and being driven around to cheap hotels to have their faces plastered in make up before parading around to be judged on their looks.
Not to mention the palpable disappointment on their parents' faces if they don't win a trophy.

Vintagejazz

I feel so sorry for those children. They should be out playing with their friends, riding around on bikes, building dens, throwing balls around and having fun in parks and playgrounds.

Instead they're spending hours practicing inappropriate routines and being driven around to cheap hotels to have their faces plastered in make up before parading around to be judged on their looks.
Not to mention the palpable disappointment on their parents' faces if they don't win a trophy.

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Couldn’t agree more.

Zonne

DiscoDancer1975

they don’t give a damn about what the child is wearing !! What planet are you on?
I know two women whose husband’s have been arrested for paedophile’ activity’. Seeing what the children were wearing, and what these men were looking at...was the first thing the police were drawn to.

I’m not disputing this is what you (or the wives) were told by the perpetrators, but this isn’t really how the police track online paedophilia.

It is, however, one of a plethora of victim blaming excuses paedophiles use to ‘justify’ their belief that children are sexually aware and willing.

Exactly. Ask anyone who ever arrested, prosecuted or attempted therapy with these men

Children will emulate their parents. And an array of make-up in the adult bedroom is a honey-pot for fun and experimentation. And, from experience, I can tell you, not only for girls. As I discovered when the 'war paint' lines on my son's face exactly matched the colour of my diminishing lipstick.

I wish, though, that little girls might also imitate their fathers sometimes... helping out in the garden shed fixing things or doing a bit of carpentry.

An uncle of mine, with whom I spent a lot of time as a child, owned a business making drays and other pieces of farm / home equipment. He encouraged me to experiment with off-cuts of wood, nails, glue and paint. And he allowed me and my friends (both sexes) to have a corner of his workshop to play in.

I'm not averse to pamper parties - but the drinking of pretend Prosecco I think is a step in the wrong direction. And I'd like to think that little girls can have their imagination stretched beyond the idea of looking pretty and cute. If they want to play with mum's dressing-up box on a rainy afternoon and enter the world of make-believe, that's one thing, but deliberately orientating them towards being a 'pampered female' on a regular basis... I'm not so sure that's a good idea. They'll need more armament than that when they enter the adult world.

... but that's just a personal opinion and I accept that it's an individual thing.

Most imaginative play that children enjoy is copying adults, cleaning, cooking, driving, and baby dolls to name a few.

Children seem to enjoy these parties, I do. Not see any problems.

I'm just thankful that I didn't have a 'girly' girl - mine was, like me, horse mad and spent all her time wearing jodhpurs and covered in muck. I never ever dressed up in my mum's clothes or shoes or tried on her make-up, and my daughter was the same. While I don't have a problem with pamper parties for kids per se, I do feel it just adds to the whole culture nowadays that seems to a woman has to look 'perfect' at all times. With social media etc, they're under enough pressure now without adding to that at an ever earlier age.

I agree. Then you have these nine years old parents saying ‘my kids are growing up far too quickly’ - now you know why. I remember still playing with dolls at this age!

A pamper party for a birthday (birthdays are once a year) does not mean that for the other 364 (365 in a leap year) that children cannot climb trees, ride bikes and or ponies, make dens, splash in rock pools, help Dad/Grandpa with DIY and get as grubby as they like etc. etc it’s a couple of hours.

There is so much over thinking on this thread…

Not to mention so much prejudice- if you like make up and pampering you must be sex mad., can't enjoy anything messy or active and are a certain sort of girl or woman. I thought we killed those ideas long ago. Isn't that why there are athletes and successful women selling skin products now?
My DGD likes lip balms, creams and lotions that smell good, nothing to do with how she looks or any other ideas.