Women’s anatomy and medical students

That's what's so refreshing
Facts have been put first, before feelings.
For a change.

Clearly they don't consider it brave, just factual .

This goes to prove once and for all all and beyond all reasonable doubt that men and women are completely different and in more ways than we realise.

Its very brave of these people to do this
www.bbc.co.uk/news/av/uk-61258731

Fleur20

EVERYTHING is designed for the male body.
Seats, table heights, cars, ladders.... all the things we use every day are based on being used primarily by men.

So true.
Not forgetting seatbelts.
Also, in-ear head phones are designed for mens bigger lugholes.
They don't always fit properly in our 'often smaller' much narrower ear canals.

BlueSky I'd take a wild guess that it isn't stated clearly on the consent form but is in disguised language so that patients don't realise unless they are looking for it .

EVERYTHING is designed for the male body.
Seats, table heights, cars, ladders.... all the things we use every day are based on being used primarily by men.

Oopsadaisy I was going to say, there’s bound to be a consent form to sign where this would be mentioned.

Argy margy, Im quite aware men have a thyroid gland, in a support group I attended there were many fewer men with thyroid issues. Sadly some men seemed to be ignored just as much as women were. Attitudes to women by medical professionals in my and others experience is far worse. They also tend to talk to you like you are a four year old. I hope you never get thyroid issues and meet the attitudes I have. Go onto the forums at Thyroid UK, read the experiences of thousands of women on the forums there and some awful stories. Then compare the amount of men on that forum. I hope you never suffer and I mean suffer with any thyroid issue. It's destroyed health, careers, relationships, yet we are the poor relatives for health care. You are either depressed or overeating. Anything but taken seriously. There was one man in my group who gave up going to the doctor at all. Other people spent thousands on private treatment. Most Endocrinoligists are patronising and follow outdated treatment from about 30 years ago and it's a worldwide problem, not just here.

We often hear too that things like the menopause and PMT are not sufficiently researched. I'm not sure how true this is, but it is often mentioned on science podcasts and radio programmes.

Pepper59

It's shocking how nearly all research has been done only on male health. We are half the population. I only hope this new medical marvel can help educate them in women's health, particularly the thyroid gland where ignorance abounds,in particular educate GP's and Endocrinologists. I was told by my own GP ( now retired). ' I know nothing about the thyroid gland'. If I had a pound for each time I heard this from different people, I'd be a very rich woman.

It may shock you to know that men have a thyroid too. GPS cannot possibly know about the entirety of the human body and its vagaries - hence we have specialists.

Floriel, yes, I saw that - a bit horrified that they've only now got around to changing things.

Yes there are SO many differences between women and men.
Its not just a case of outward appearances.
Can't argue with science.

Is it illegal yet to perform internal examinations on anaesthetised Women?
Sometimes students were ‘invited’ to perform pelvic examinations on women who were already in the operating theatre for other reasons, sometimes more than one student. This was for Training purposes.
Read the consent form before you sign if you don’t want this to happen as I’m not sure if the practice has been stopped.

grandMattie

It shocking, isn’t it?
Try reading “Invisible Women” by Caroline Criado Perez, and you will be horrified. Would easily turn me into a radicalised feminist.

A friend lent me that book. I was so annoyed that I had to stop reading it! Unbelievable.

I suspect this ignorance of the female body may go far back in time when strict rules of modesty governed women and there was a reticence in using the female body as a naked and displayed the female body carried a elelment that only prostitutes bared their body to the male gaze.

Mind you, in the days before the internet, we had a medical book that included pictures of the stripped of skin male and female bodies.

Throughout nature the longer-living creature is, barring accidents, always the female because she bears and nurtures the next generation. Every species does this. It is why peahens, for example, look dull, drab and can easily conceal themselves from predators but peacocks are colourful to attract mates.

I think I read some serious article quite a while ago about how the "default" for a foetus is always female. Think about inherited diseases or problems that affect only those with Y chromosomes.

It is no surprise to me that medical science still regards male as the "norm". This has less to do with science and everything to do with so many centuries of the way women were regarded. It takes a very long time to undermine preconceptions

It shocking, isn’t it?
Try reading “Invisible Women” by Caroline Criado Perez, and you will be horrified. Would easily turn me into a radicalised feminist.

It's shocking how nearly all research has been done only on male health. We are half the population. I only hope this new medical marvel can help educate them in women's health, particularly the thyroid gland where ignorance abounds,in particular educate GP's and Endocrinologists. I was told by my own GP ( now retired). ' I know nothing about the thyroid gland'. If I had a pound for each time I heard this from different people, I'd be a very rich woman.