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Baby P's mother to be released

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snowberryZ Thu 05-May-22 17:59:51

Who makes these decisions?confused

news.sky.com/story/baby-p-tracey-connelly-set-to-be-released-from-prison-after-government-challenge-rejected-12606001

Iam64 Thu 05-May-22 22:04:43

To live

MissAdventure Thu 05-May-22 22:06:58

Would they start with Putin?
Plenty wish him to be killed.
Is there some sort of grading system for the disposal of undesirables, and how does that work?

tickingbird Thu 05-May-22 22:07:49

Sorry, I didn't realise we'd moved back to medieval times.

No we’ve moved into allowing babies and young children to be tortured, starved and psychologically terrorised and get upset because some are, quite reasonably, outraged by it. Still, we mustn’t be judgemental - that’s just the pits.

Incidentally, her boyfriend also raped her two year old daughter. Quite honestly, if she isn’t a case for enforced sterilisation I don’t know who is.

Robin49 Thu 05-May-22 22:13:30

volver

Let's just have a quick overview before I leave...

13 years counts as "soon", she deserves to rot, some people hope she is murdered, she'll probably be pregnant soon and they should take any (hypothetical) babies away from her...

Its like the Handmaids Tale. angry

Yes, well summed up.

volver Thu 05-May-22 22:16:00

Nobody's allowing such a thing, are they?

Well some of us don't agree with your favoured approach.

I mean, you might get someone's name wrong and punish the wrong person.

Kate1949 Thu 05-May-22 22:16:08

It's heartbreaking. And now little Arthur's murderers are appealing against their convictions. Beautiful baby Leiland Corkhill now killed by the woman who 'hoped to adopt him'. sadangry

MissAdventure Thu 05-May-22 22:16:35

Yes, its just like a TV drama.
Except a baby lost his life and died in a blood spattered cot, with his back broken.

Mine Thu 05-May-22 22:16:43

Just out of curiosity VOLVER what do you think is the answer as to how baby Ps mother lives the rest of her life.???

volver Thu 05-May-22 22:20:17

Can I ask why I appear to be public enemy number 1 with the mob, please? Touched a nerve have I? Coming for me next once you've lynched someone else?

MissAdventure Thu 05-May-22 22:24:14

You've certainly not touched a nerve with me.
Your opinion has,no bearing on mine whatsoever.

Mine Thu 05-May-22 22:27:45

Sorry you feel like that Volver
I am my own person and not a part of the MOB...You've defo not touched a nerve and I certainly don't wish anyone to be lynched...I just want the punishment to fit the horrible crime that was committed in the murder of a poor innocent little boy

volver Thu 05-May-22 22:30:10

And everybody else on this thread who thinks like me? Any comments for them?

Or just easier to pick on the mouthy one?

Robin49 Thu 05-May-22 22:32:32

No, you seem to be pretty much out on your own with this one Volver.

volver Thu 05-May-22 22:35:12

Yeah well you might want to re-read the thread and reconsider that Robin49.

welbeck Thu 05-May-22 22:36:55

but she was not convicted of murder, nor of manslaughter, but of causing or allowing the death of the child, to which she pleaded guilty.
though i can understand the strength of feeling re this matter, i think we need to remember that she was not the main perpetrator.

Mine Thu 05-May-22 22:37:26

Don't seem to see many folk who think like you on this one Volver..

Mine Thu 05-May-22 22:39:58

Omg she was baby Ps mother...She should have protected her child...What she allowed to happen to her son was inhuman...

JenniferEccles Thu 05-May-22 22:41:12

I think there is a case for compulsory sterilisation for those unbelievably cruel individuals who kill small children in their care.

Don’t they forfeit the right to reproduce after they caused the death of a defenceless baby?

I don’t believe anybody who is capable of such appalling cruelty will ever change. The evil goes too deep.

volver Thu 05-May-22 22:43:26

Mine

Don't seem to see many folk who think like you on this one Volver..

Read the thread then. Properly.

Kate1949 Thu 05-May-22 22:44:36

'she was not the main perpetrator'. Blimey. It was her child!!

DaisyAnne Thu 05-May-22 22:44:49

Mine

Sorry you feel like that Volver
I am my own person and not a part of the MOB...You've defo not touched a nerve and I certainly don't wish anyone to be lynched...I just want the punishment to fit the horrible crime that was committed in the murder of a poor innocent little boy

The punishment has legally fitted the crime. What would you achieve by not following the law? I think everyone needs to calm down otherwise the sense of mob rule becomes very apparent. If people don't want to be seen in that light, then they need to talk with reason.

Nothing will bring this child back. We have to try and make the best of this awful situation or we are simply ignorant fools who only respond to our emotions. Wasn't that what these people did when they killed Peter?

Mine Thu 05-May-22 22:45:33

Totally agree JENNIFERECCLES...

DaisyAnne Thu 05-May-22 22:46:44

Mine

Totally agree JENNIFERECCLES...

Oh dear. Of course you do.

Callistemon21 Thu 05-May-22 22:51:22

Luckygirl3

Unfortunately the services that are intended to reduce the risks that she might present are underfunded and deeply flawed. That is clear from the fact that she was known to all the services over a period of time but still this tragedy played out.

I think it is more than likely that a pregnancy will be on the cards before long.

The family was well-known Luckygirl and many visits were made but still these tragedies happened. Peter was not the only child to have suffered in that house.
Services may be suffering funding issues now but it was an inexperienced social worker who was allocated that case as far as I remember and prompt action should have been taken to remove those children frm the hell hey were living in.
Police visited the house too - how could they have missed what was going on.
The mother may have a low IQ but she was well able to pull the wool over the eyes of the professionals.
The case sparked outrage as Baby P received 60 visits from social workers, police and health professionals over eight months.

Mine Thu 05-May-22 22:56:51

Finding your comments very sarcastic DAISY ANN....As I say again I'm not in any MOB and don't consider myself to be an ignorant fool....I know we can't change the law but surely any loving person would agree that she should never be allowed any kind of freedom..