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Callistemon21 Mon 06-Jun-22 22:48:28

Harry and Meghan have issued a photo of Lilibet taken on her first birthday at Frogmore.

What a sweet little girl and what lovely colour hair, more copper than lighter red.

Dickens Thu 09-Jun-22 07:00:58

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Dickens

TanaMa

Sorry my comment raised such ire but I can assure you I am definitely NOT racist, it was meant as a genuine query. Signs of the times when a normal comment is immediately put into a convenient box. I don't know the woman so can't say I like or dislike her so can't see why I am supposed to be saying otherwise.

I genuinely don't get your point.

Women (and some men) from different backgrounds / heritage have always played around with hair colour and hair styles. There's one - a celebrity whose name I can't remember - who dyes her hair blond, an sometimes pink, but is fiercely proud of her black heritage.

And we borrow from their cultures too, think of 'dreadlocks'. We curl our hair, we straighten it, sometimes cut it all off in a 'crew' cut, then allow it to grow long again.

A friend of mine paints her hands with henna with a lovely lacey pattern sometimes, but it hasn't made her any less British.

What you're implying is that if someone is proud of their heritage they should stick to their 'natural' look / locks as 'proof' which seems pretty weird to me. Women love fashion, we love the fact that we can do fantastic things with our hair and our make-up. My 14 year old grandson wears his hair in a topknot bun - a style worn by men in Ancient China... he lives in South Africa, and is a dedicated Anglophile.

Is there any logical reason why Meghan shouldn't do what millions of other women do - from all over the world?

I'm not accusing you of being racist - I simply think it's a strange observation. Forgetting for a moment all the hooha surrounding her and Harry - she looks lovely with her hair styled the way it is... and probably knows it suits her. So why on earth not wear it as she does?

You differentiate between “we” and “they” …. “We borrow from their cultures..”
and earlier in your post “ there’s one [sic] - a celebrity ….who dyes her hair blond …”

You may not realise the fundamental underlying racism in what you’ve said?

“We” to me is all of us! Not a “we” and “they”.

... well, that's your take.

I'm talking about a demographic - those with mixed heritage who care about their roots. As opposed to those who don't or aren't bothered.

If you want to highlight something specific that affects certain groups of people, but not others, it's not unusual to refer to the groups as "they".

If, for example, I wanted to mention how certain issues affected children, or young working people, or pensioners, and said something along the lines of "they are more disadvantaged by the rising cost of living"... would you have picked me up on my choice of the word, they?

Callistemon21 Thu 09-Jun-22 10:21:11

I started this thread with the best of intentions and I really wish I hadn't bothered.

FannyCornforth Thu 09-Jun-22 10:24:17

Callistemon thanks I know that feeling

Dickens Thu 09-Jun-22 10:36:08

Callistemon21

I started this thread with the best of intentions and I really wish I hadn't bothered.

Surely though your experience on GN would tell you that anything written about Meghan and Harry is going to attract some negativity?

Even a lovely photo' of a sweet innocent child.

Callistemon21 Thu 09-Jun-22 10:44:25

Dickens

Callistemon21

I started this thread with the best of intentions and I really wish I hadn't bothered.

Surely though your experience on GN would tell you that anything written about Meghan and Harry is going to attract some negativity?

Even a lovely photo' of a sweet innocent child.

I've had a lot of experience of GN since before Meghan met Harry Dickens smile and it was never like this.

There was aa wider variety of threads, interesting conversations and some disagreements but never this bad.

Dickens Thu 09-Jun-22 11:03:29

I think it went 'downhill' after this...

I wonder who in Meghan's family carries the red-haired gene?

A seemingly innocent remark - but...

Maybe I'm naïve, but I can see the resemblance to both Harry and Meghan. And even tho' I'm not a Royalist... the photo' is charming and sweet... just a lovely snap of a little one year old tot on her birthday.

What's not to like?!

FannyCornforth Thu 09-Jun-22 11:17:37

Yes it was a bit odd.
It reminded me of all the Harry / Hewitt business.
That all started because of hair colour.
Hair has been very provocative on this thread!

Photocrazy Thu 09-Jun-22 14:29:22

My brother, the eldest child and I the youngest child have red hair, my sister, the middle child does not and neither do our parents or our grandparents. None of our children are red haired either!