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bevisp1 Tue 07-Jun-22 09:02:32

Don’t know if it’s me or anyone else feels the same, seems that they didn’t have much success in coming back for the queens platinum jubilee, then suddenly they go back to USA, and now are showing photographs of Lillebet, .. in my opinion, a little too late. They hardly shown any of Archie since he was born, is it now to try and gain ‘brownie points’ and win the public over…. Don’t get me wrong whatever photos they show of the little ones are adorable, but to me a little too late…

Galaxy Thu 09-Jun-22 22:47:39

The same reason they put things up their nose. Also not an activity that is usually modelled at home or school.

Mollygo Thu 09-Jun-22 22:59:57

Galaxy

The same reason they put things up their nose. Also not an activity that is usually modelled at home or school.

Not the same thing at all. Also usually, the pain and sometimes fright unwillingly inflicted whilst removing the offending object is sufficient to deter a child from doing that too often.
So what do you suggest as an effective solution for stopping children attacking each other and adults in ways that has not been modelled at home or at school, that avoids inflicting pain or fear on the offender?
I’d love to share the advice with staff and the parents. The victims would also benefit from such a solution.

Callistemon21 Thu 09-Jun-22 23:00:10

I don't think all non-smacking parents bring up children who smack them and others.
I've never noticed children doing that when they come out of school either.

As we're doing the school run tomorrow, I'll take more note.

Mollygo Thu 09-Jun-22 23:05:13

Callistemon21 of course they don’t, any more than all the children of parents who used to smack were violent to each other. I’d hate to go back to the smacking era and I agree that it’s wrong. I’d just like a solution for those children who do seem to think it’s OK to hit each other or adults.

Callistemon21 Thu 09-Jun-22 23:10:29

Mllygo I have a lovely friend who had children about the same age as my older ones - her older one was a very naughty boy but, instead of disciplining him in any way by telling him off, she would ask him why he wanted to upset her and beg him to be kind. He just got worse.

Callistemon21 Thu 09-Jun-22 23:14:56

Some parents seem frightened of taking charge, perhaps they think their children won't like them if they do.
Children need to have boundaries.

Galaxy Thu 09-Jun-22 23:23:45

I dont really understand what you mean molly. There are a range of strategies to use with children who hurt others, many of the children I work with do this at times, we put a range of strategies in place, none of which involve hitting them.

lemsip Fri 10-Jun-22 00:58:14

I predict another visit to Oprah coming soon!
then Harry's book will hit the shelves.

Calendargirl Fri 10-Jun-22 06:59:39

lemsip

I predict another visit to Oprah coming soon!
then Harry's book will hit the shelves.

What can be said at another Oprah interview?

The Queen invited the Sussexes over for her Jubilee, no mention made of security issues which had been a sticking point in the past.

They came, watched Trooping the Colour with other non working members of the RF from a window, and one would imagine they ‘mingled’.

Attended the Service of Thanksgiving next day, own royal car transport, own little procession, seated second row amongst other non working royals.

Saturday Lilibet’s first birthday, privateish celebration at Windsor, some RF members attended, others were busy on engagements.

Didn’t attend the concert or the pageant, but it appears they saw the Queen and she saw her great grandchildren.

They went home.

As non working royals who have chosen to live (and work) overseas, all seems reasonable.

If and when the ‘tell all’ book comes out, it will be interesting as to how it all comes across.

Joseanne Fri 10-Jun-22 07:05:54

I'm confused by the mention of all this book business and its delays. Is it just to keep them relevant? Or is it because they haven't found enough substantial content?

eazybee Fri 10-Jun-22 08:49:23

I thought when I saw H & M smiling through the windows with the children and their low-key appearance at St. Pauls that their visit was the beginning of a charm offensive and a possible reconciliation.
I hope this proposed book disappears but if one is published, a warm witty collection of anecdotes about life in the royal family and especially the Queen, would, in my opinion, be a far better seller.

Anniebach Fri 10-Jun-22 08:56:26

Would the anecdotes be true

Germanshepherdsmum Fri 10-Jun-22 08:56:30

We know there will be a book which won’t be published until after the Queen has died, so you may depend that will contain some unpleasant allegations.

Sparklefizz Fri 10-Jun-22 09:22:42

Germanshepherdsmum

We know there will be a book which won’t be published until after the Queen has died, so you may depend that will contain some unpleasant allegations.

What an awful spiteful threat that is from Harry!

Germanshepherdsmum Fri 10-Jun-22 09:26:35

I agree. Something that must hang over her head because presumably he will have something nasty to say about her and/or Prince Philip.

Anniebach Fri 10-Jun-22 09:32:49

Are his cousins friendly with him because they are fond of him
or fear of what he may say, truth or lies.

Germanshepherdsmum Fri 10-Jun-22 09:43:07

I should think the entire family fears what he will say next, Annie. After all, ‘his truth’ (and hers) may be what we would call downright lies. As HM said, recollections will probably vary.

maddyone Fri 10-Jun-22 10:16:25

Recollections may vary

A master stroke in under statement.

Glorianny Fri 10-Jun-22 10:22:50

As the thread has turned to H&M again I can't help thinking that they must have watched Louis and congratulated themselves that their children had been removed from such an unnatural and exploitative upbringing. I suspect Harry will have remembered when he and William were paraded before the public and the distress that caused.

Anniebach Fri 10-Jun-22 10:54:24

What is unnatural about children taken to watch a street parade

Grany Fri 10-Jun-22 11:11:47

An SNP MP has demanded the Queen reveal whether she bankrolled Prince Andrew’s £12million sexual assault case settlement.

Tommy Sheppard wants a new law that requires the royals to be transparent about spending from their Duchy of Lancaster estate.

The Duke of York reached an out-of-court settlement with Virginia Giuffre over claims he ­sexually assaulted her when she was 17.

It has not been made public how that was funded, with press reports claiming the Queen was to help financially.

Sheppard said: “Most people would find it quite shocking if funds were used in this way, and they would want the money paid back.”

Prince Andrew lost his ­military titles and royal ­patronages in January amid a public outcry over his links to sex offender Jeffrey Epstein. Sheppard wants to know whether proceeds from the Duchy – the monarch’s £500million estate – were used for the Duke’s settlement.

The Privy Purse is the Queen’s private income from the Duchy and she receives around £20million a year from it.

Sovereign Grant income given to the Queen from the Crown Estate is made public while money from the Duchy is not.

But Sheppard says the Duchy, which the UK Government runs, is an “organ of the state”, not a set of private assets.

The Edinburgh East MP has written to Prime Minister Boris Johnson in a bid to make Duchy spending public. He wrote: “While the Duchy of Lancaster publishes annual accounts of how that money has been raised, it is simply handed over to the Royal Household with no further checks.

“Once in the Privy Purse, it vanishes from all public scrutiny and accountability, despite its public origin.”

He added: “This is ­especially important in light of recent ­allegations. Media
organisations have widely reported that Prince Andrew reached a settlement with Virginia Giuffre that included him paying her £12million.

“There has been wide speculation that this money came from the Queen.”

Sheppard argued the UK Government should make the Duchy income public through an Act of Parliament “similar to the Sovereign Grant Act of 2011”.

He previously wrote to Sir Michael Stevens, Keeper of the Privy Purse, about the matter.

The Keeper replied that the resources from the Duchy are part of the Queen’s personal income and “in the main” used to support other members of the Royal Family to perform official duties.

Sheppard asked whether any cash was used for the Prince Andrew case, to which the Keeper said he did not have “anything to add”.

The MP told the Record the Duchy’s response had been a “little dismissive”.

He said: “It is not the Queen’s private wealth. The Duchy of Lancaster is not private, it is part of the state. The Queen only has access to it as long as she is Queen. She can’t take it with her. It comes with the office.”

He added: “Given I have been told to take a running jump, I think we need a law.”

Asked if he suspected that Duchy funds helped pay for the settlement, he said: “Sort of, because otherwise why would you not just explicitly dismiss the question? To refuse to answer plants that suspicion.”

Prince Andrew made no admission of liability as part of the settlement and has denied Ms Giuffre’s allegations.

The Treasury said no public money was involved, which would rule out cash from the Sovereign Grant

Downing Street, Buckingham Palace and the Duchy of Lancaster have been contacted for comment.

Tommy Sheppard is backing a new transparency law for the Duchy of Lancaster, which provides the Queen with some of her income.

We need this transparency law don't we?
Public bodies should not be exempt from FOIA

Glorianny Fri 10-Jun-22 11:22:21

I don't understand why a century after we stopped publicly displaying lunatics, years after zoos have stopped being places that display animals in cages, it is at all acceptable for one rich family to put their children on public display, simply because one of them might possibly, sometime in the distant future, become head of state.

Anniebach Fri 10-Jun-22 11:31:46

The children were not put on public display, those in the parade were, by choice,

Mollygo Fri 10-Jun-22 11:36:28

Glorianny, talking of lunacy, it’s now acceptable to post photographs of your dinner, your relatives in stupid poses, places you have visited, your pets, your new watering can, your children and your grandchildren. You don’t even have to be rich, so why pick on one family?

volver Fri 10-Jun-22 11:38:06

Why do people keep trying to deny the obvious?

Here are the royal children on display at the weekend.