Meghan and harry

Glorianny
They came back and kept a low profile. They were not (as has been alleged many times on these threads) accompanied by a Netflix film crew or photographer. I have no doubt it's a great disappointment to some that they behaved so well.
We have no idea whether they chose to behave or were told to behave by the Palace. It could be they were given strict instructions that no film crews were allowed and they should not try to upstage the Queen.

I do wish people would realise that Meghan had a career and was involved in charitable work and work to help women and girls way before she met Harry.
As did Heather Mills before she met Paul McCartney. Say no more!

volver

Ach, this is why I'm not a Royalist Or a mother.

The balcony thing was funny, the hands over the ears thing. Him moving about from knee to knee was funny; keeping the child entertained and all that. Even him having a bit of a strop and having a sulky face on the platform. But the disrespect he showed his mother? In a public place? Why is that just something that's to be accepted, maybe even laughed about, "because he's only a child"?

Me too.

As HM, no not that one , I have sat in my office and listened to mums telling me how young Tom disgraced the family at an event, or how the usually impeccably behaved Sophia threw a big wobbly and lashed out. The nicest and best of mums were mortified and were often in tears, until they realised that they were neither the first nor the last, and that the HMs children had done exactly the same, and that no one thought any the worse. Those children have now grown up to be some of the kindest and most respectful adults. Cut little Louis some slack.

Good posts WWM2, Casdon, GG13, Callistemon etc.

Sadly, I grew up like that. I learned not to hiccup because it would send my mother into a rage.

Even now, Many decades later, I rarely hiccup.

Nanny was there,three rows back, and clearly removed Louis before the end as he suddenly wasn't there anymore. Most of us with experience of 4 year olds would have recognised this as the behaviour of a bored probably tired over excited little boy. The parade must have seemed never ending for him, and he behaved accordingly. My own son at that age had to be taken out of a long RC christening, to say he found it tedious was an understatement. Louis behaviour was perfectly normal and those who think he should have been a paragon of 'good behaviour' have little or no experience of very young children.

I have no experience of very young children, that's right.

No patience with bad behaviour either.

All I can say is I’m from a big family, I know a lot of people and I’ve never met a perfectly behaved four year old.

Me neither

I've come across a few tutters, though ?

volver

I have no experience of very young children, that's right.

No patience with bad behaviour either.

There was no bad behaviour.

We definitely weren't watching the same video then.

I just know about children.

Have you seen the video? The one where he is behaving badly?

volver he was being a pain. But he had been put in a situation that was not suitable for a 4 year old. No 4 year old would be able to sit there for as long as he had to, without resorting to some sort of bored behaviour. I'm not sure why they didn't have a contingency in place. A sneaky tablet for him to watch. Or a nanny to hand him off to.

My DGS is 4. He would have been climbing over the edge way before the time when Louis started to act up.

volver

TerriBull

I love Prince Louis, I particularly found the hand over the mouth inflicted on his mum funny, not so amusing I imagine when on the receiving end of that, but Catherine dealt with all of his shenanigans very well, given the eyes of the world were upon them all I predict some detentions ahead and a few boundaries being pushed to their limits! He is such a gorgeous little boy.

If I'd behaved in public like that when I was four I'd have got a skelp and been taken home with no tea.

Yes if I was on the receiving end I wouldn't have been amused, and I certainly wouldn't have got away with it either. but she dealt with it well, she didn't have a choice really, probably itching to give him -- a clip round the ear but couldn't risk being reported to SS-- a stern talking to!

GagaJo

volver he was being a pain. But he had been put in a situation that was not suitable for a 4 year old. No 4 year old would be able to sit there for as long as he had to, without resorting to some sort of bored behaviour. I'm not sure why they didn't have a contingency in place. A sneaky tablet for him to watch. Or a nanny to hand him off to.

My DGS is 4. He would have been climbing over the edge way before the time when Louis started to act up.

They did have a contingency plan, his Nanny took him away before the end of the pageant.

I imagine Kate is too civilised to want to give a four year old a ‘clip around the ear’.

Look at Charlotte and George now. Perfectly behaved. But both of them had mishaps in the past.

My sister and brother-in[law are childless. Brother in law is an utter pain. He was always saying how people didn't know how to bring up child. How you have to train them

One Christmas we were all together. Hot drinks was served. My youngest son was in his high chair. He would have been about 12 months. BiL decided to put his mug of boiling hot tea on the high chair tray.

I yelled, leapt up, my mother zoomed over. In fact we amazed ourselves at the speed which we moved.

I was polite and explained that we can't put mugs of hot tea on high chair trays.

He scowled and told me I was spoiling him. No respect he yelled.

Children are all different. I was extremely lucky with mine. However I was a nightmare child. Same upbringing as siblings.

Nature versus nurture. I reckon 50/50

After I had pressed post, I did think I hope I'm not taken literally about the "clip round the ear" said rather flippantly, although it was a common enough expression when I was growing up, a threat not usually carried out (hopefully)

Grandma70s

I imagine Kate is too civilised to want to give a four year old a ‘clip around the ear’.

You can say that again!

Seems we've wandered into Victorian times!

If he had been, say, seven, I would have expected better ‘behaviour’ (by which people mean adult behaviour), but he is four, and moreover, hasn’t been four for very long (born April 23rd).

His behavior was normal for a 4 year old in that position, not bad.

The only thing "bad" here was the decision to put a 4 year old in a position he was not mature enough for.

All.parents make bad decisions at times. You learn and move on.

I am glad that I am able to raise my kids in a time when it is ok for kids to behave like kids and not mini adults.

imaround good post.

Just me then. (and maybe GSM )

To expect children not to disrespect their mothers in public, whether they are 4 or 40.

Nanny was there, and she did take Louis over. P.C reminded me of my own stepfatber when placating my son , it works for a minute or two, but then??!! There was no bad behaviour ,just boredom, tiredness and too much jubilee.children thrive on routine,and his had been well and truly turned on its head. I thought the Queen was sweet with him on the balcony.

Did Louis thumb his nose at his mother more than once?
I saw a photograph of him doing it, I saw his mother speaking severely to him, and he didn't appear to do it again.
Which is how you treat four year olds when they show off.

eazybee

Did Louis thumb his nose at his mother more than once?
I saw a photograph of him doing it, I saw his mother speaking severely to him, and he didn't appear to do it again.
Which is how you treat four year olds when they show off.

Twice. Just after he'd put his hand over her mouth a couple of times to stop her talking, and pushed her away.

Which is how you treat your mother if you don't respect them.