Good to see you back Rosie51.
Giving my pots a bit of a boost after the winter
Desperately sad story of the assisted suicide of a grieving mother
GNHQ have commented on this thread. Read here.
I am bemused by the amount of times GNetters seem to “report” other members for things which are frankly none of their business. I guess they were school snitches …
The result is the loss of longstanding members of GN through either suspension or their resignation (often due to some perceived “ganging up” aka. Disagreeing with other posters. )
Well done !
Good to see you back Rosie51.
Thanks Chewbacca I often feel invisible, nice to be noticed

I never notice if I have been deleted and I don’t really care, I have to admit. More to life etc etc
Hello Rosie, sounds like a good trip
Hi Rosie. Good to see you. I had noticed you hadn’t posted, but it didn’t cross my mind that you might have been banned
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HI, I thought I would come back on here since I had had a couple of weeks to make more observations as a relative newcomer and also someone else has recently raised a similar query in a new thread.
From what I can see across the various posts and wide range of threads, most people on GN seem very nice, helpful, and willing to share their knowledge and experiences. Not everyone is only ever a sweet and gentle Granny, which is perfectly realistic. Some people are openly more direct than others, which is also fine.
There does seem to be some evidence that some posters will always defend some others, no matter what has been posted. However, I haven't observed high volumes of this, just a few instances. Again, this would take place in some face to face groups.
Others scream "Report" or "Reported" as soon as they come across anything they don't agree with, which could be a complete topic or a single word ( eg S.E.X.) People are entitled to report.
However, overall, I can't see anything very untoward taking place. And of course one of the reasons for that is that comments considered by GNHQ to be out-with the rules are deleted. None of us can learn from these as we don't see them. Some of us no doubt would relish seeing them for mere additional entertainment value!
In conclusion, as a site for adults, in my opinion an adult approach should be taken. Although the current GN rules are that we should report things where we feel this is necessary, and so we cannot then condemn people for following the rules, maybe we could ask GN if the rules could be amended and the offensive posts remain visible so that we can all see where the rules have been broken, and so avoid doing the same ourselves. And equally, if a report has been submitted and GNHQ deems it to be inoffensive then that too should be shown in the thread by GMHQ, again to help guide us all.
That's not a bad idea Baggytrazzas. The reported post that GNHQ deem to have broken the guidelines could be highlighted in a different colour.
Not sure about bringing attention to a reported post that GNHQ believe to be acceptable though, as that must happen quite a lot, and the one being reported never knows anyway, if no action is deemed necessary.
Perhaps, rather than show the actual post, it could say "Broke the rules on racism / personal insult / whatever."
I don't suppose it'll happen, tho.
Even good ideas that eventually happen are ignored for months after we have been told GNHQ is on the case.
I suppose the rules are fairly self-evident, tho, and most people manage without effort not to post anything that is likely to be a rule-breaker.
I think it's an awful idea to broadcast to other members what "misdemeanor" a person had committed.
You may as well hand some a hammer, so they can bludgeon the person about it for the next decade.
MissAdventure
I think it's an awful idea to broadcast to other members what "misdemeanor" a person had committed.
You may as well hand some a hammer, so they can bludgeon the person about it for the next decade.
hi, but it might not be offensive to everyone, and if we don't know that it is offensive to someone then we could continually repeat it.
Maybe my thought process is a bit blunt on this and needs refining, but I think that we either encourage people to follow the current rules and " report", with no complaints about reporting, with the rest of us blind to what has been reported, or we think about whether something different might work better.
maybe the post could remain in place for guidance, with the persons name removed, for example?
I think the system works well "as is".
Only my opinion, though.
Regardless of what anyone thinks, though, gransnet will be run in a way that suits gnhq, not the members, so it's a moot point.
oh well, I guess we will continue to see the argy bargying when someone accuses another person of reporting them and it is denied, and so on, and the rest of us don't know what was wrong with the post as we can't see it. It just seems to me that it would be much clearer if we could all share the info in question, possibly without the names of the poster or reporter, and therefore we would know what not to do.
But I accept your point about it suiting gnhq so you are right it will probably continue on their terms whether we could propose something different or not.
If the name was removed, we'd probably have days of people guessing who it could have been. 
Then telling them they should have the guts to own up, and so on.
It's all something and nothing, really.
I agree, it is all something and nothing. Personally, ( apart from the adverts I sometimes see) it would need to be truly awful for me to report anything anyone else had written. I would be much more likely to respond to the poster along the lines of " that's seems harsh/unacceptable/etc". But of course that is not following the gnhq rules as I should be reporting it to them and not taking it up with poster.
I think I need to learn more about gnhq and the posters!


Sometimes a post is really nasty to an individual or is homophobic or racist etc.
I think those really do need to be removed, even if others have commented in the way you say Baggytrazzas.
Well Baggytrazzas I ve been on here 11 years ( I think) and haven’t a clue what anyone is on about
No idea who’s being bullied or whos bullying who and I post and read Gn every day I must have my head in the clouds Not a clue what’s going on all over my head
Oh well, I guess I will just need to follow the current rules, along with everyone else.
Also GN would be left open to legal action if they left certain posts to stand.
Galaxy
Also GN would be left open to legal action if they left certain posts to stand.
Hi galaxy, if that were the case, would the person who posted not be liable to legal action too?
I think that's quite an untested area, there was a case on MN where there was a legal request for the posters details. I cant remember what happened with that one to be honest.
Maybe that would help reduce offensive posts, if everyone was made aware that legal action could be taken, if that is the case.
Can anyone else throw any more light on this aspect?
There is no legal duty on website operators to moderate their websites against defamatory posts by third party users. If a website operator decides to moderate their website, they may not automatically incur liability for defamation even if they make slight amendments to the original post. However, in case of an interactive website, where the role of the moderator is prominent in facilitating discussions, website operators may risk being held liable to their own posts or to posts that encourage defamatory conversations. In such case, a website operator might also be held liable to comments by other users of the discussion forum if it can be shown that they had encouraged or deliberately prompted the post of defamatory statements against the victim.
From www.internetlawcentre.co.uk/legal-liability-of-review-website-operators-in-the-uk
Also:
If you post on a forum online, you are legally liable for your remarks if any liability arises from them. Accordingly, if you post defamatory material, which is false and is defamatory of someone, you can be successfully sued. Similarly, if your remarks are malicious and untrue, then you can be sued for malicious falsehood. If your remarks infringe any prohibition on hate crimes, then you can be prosecuted. The forum administrator may also be liable. However, it is a good defence in a defamation action for a forum administrator to show that they removed the offending defamatory material at the first opportunity when the defamatory content was brought to their attention. Additionally, a forum administrator cannot be held liable for malicious falsehood as they did not utter or create the words maliciously. Similarly, a forum administrator cannot be prosecuted for hate crimes as the forum merely hosted or presented another person's content. So ultimately, it is the person who posts the remarks who has primary legal responsibility, not the forum, although the forum may have liability if it does not promptly remove the infringing or offending remarks.
from www.justanswer.com/ireland-law/5xrn7-responsible-when-post-forum-online.html
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