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Lucca Tue 05-Jul-22 21:34:53

I am bemused by the amount of times GNetters seem to “report” other members for things which are frankly none of their business. I guess they were school snitches …
The result is the loss of longstanding members of GN through either suspension or their resignation (often due to some perceived “ganging up” aka. Disagreeing with other posters. )

Well done !

Vintagejazz Thu 07-Jul-22 08:30:57

If you wouldn't put up with people speaking to you in a certain way in real life, then why would you put up with it on here?

There's a huge difference between debating an issue, and rudely attacking anyone who disagrees with you.

There is also an obvious difference between several posters having the same view, and several posters joining in a spiteful and sustained attack on an OP.

Posters who forget, or don't care, that other posters are real people and not just names on a screen, need a sharp reminder sometimes.

And if you speak to people on here in a way that you wouldn't dream of in real life, then perhaps you need to consider your reporting style.

Posters who upset other posters to the point that they leave GN, or change their username, really do deserve to be banned in my view.

nanna8 Thu 07-Jul-22 08:37:21

I looked and this thread is still here, a bit like Boris. Maybe time to move on ?

eazybee Thu 07-Jul-22 09:08:12

To refer to the original post, it insinuates that the (apparent)
'loss of longstanding members of GN through either suspension or their resignation' is due to the action of
'GNetters (who) seem to “report” other members for things which are frankly none of their business. I guess they were school snitches …'
Unpleasant.
If someone posts on an open forum, it is the business of anyone who chooses to read it.
Members of Gransnet agree to abide by various rules when they join, as Michael Gransnet reiterated:
^ if you have any concerns about a post or poster then please do report it to GNHQ rather than airing them on the boards. We're always fine to take a look behind the scenes^

I wish Gransnet felt able to notify members when posters have been suspended, because hints about the disappearance of longstanding members leads to speculation and unfounded accusations of 'snitches' (nasty word) being responsible for their absence.

Marydoll Thu 07-Jul-22 09:27:52

I think that due to GDPR regulations, GNHQ cannot name posters and rightly so. It would be a breach of their privacy.
This does not mean that I think the suspension may be unwarrented. I do not know what the solution is, apart from having an email address for someone, you are friendly with.

Galaxy Thu 07-Jul-22 09:30:31

Yes they cant do that and many people really wouldnt want an explanation of why they have been banned put on the website hmm

lemsip Thu 07-Jul-22 09:30:49

you know when you are walking along in any town, city ect and you notice the type of loud people and look down your nose......not people you'd want to associate with or want as a neighbour, well, they are all on here too!
you can notice that when a comment is extremely childish using words such as...... snitch telling tales ect ect!

Doodledog Thu 07-Jul-22 09:55:53

Marydoll

I think that due to GDPR regulations, GNHQ cannot name posters and rightly so. It would be a breach of their privacy.
This does not mean that I think the suspension may be unwarrented. I do not know what the solution is, apart from having an email address for someone, you are friendly with.

Does that apply to usernames? I am not hot on GDPR, so I could well be wrong, but I can't see how saying 'Fluffybunny* was banned for being mean/making libellous comments' is a breach of privacy.

Whether Fluffybunny would be happy to be discussed after being banned is another matter, of course.

*no reference to any posters called 'Fluffybunny' - past or present - is implied here.

eazybee Thu 07-Jul-22 10:06:24

The last time this happened, if it has happened again, other posters were very quick in revealing who they were, but I cannot recall how.

Doodledog Thu 07-Jul-22 10:21:32

eazybee

The last time this happened, if it has happened again, other posters were very quick in revealing who they were, but I cannot recall how.

Oh that drove me insane grin. There was lots of talk about 'the poster with the thin dog' , 'the airborne receptacle' and 'the madonna with the big boobies' - all very well if you are in the 'in' crowd, but incredibly exclusive if you aren't.

Galaxy Thu 07-Jul-22 10:24:13

I volunteer to be the madonna with the big boobies if I get banned.

Doodledog Thu 07-Jul-22 10:26:43

Galaxy

I volunteer to be the madonna with the big boobies if I get banned.

?

Whiff Thu 07-Jul-22 10:37:27

I have reported what are adverts. Also reported some posters when they attacked someone.

On one occasion someone said I must have abused my son. When I fought back guess what she was believed and my post got deleted and had a warning from GNHQ. When I pointed out what she said and why I fought back I got an apology from GNHQ.

I have never abused anyone let alone my own son. Where was the fairness in that. Since then I don't acknowledge she exists on any thread.

We have all read things that people have posted and they have gone to far. A poster I was friends with left GN for over a year because of being bullied . But glad to see her back under a new name.

Life is not black and white but shades of grey. Something's people post is because they can't say in the real world. And I know how much help and support I have had since I joined in 2019 . I try and repay that help where I can.

Smileless2012 Thu 07-Jul-22 11:17:51

That's why reported posts need to be looked at in context Whiff. If someone's being goaded and is defending themselves it is right that GNHQ take that into account and it's good to know that they do.

I feel as you do, am thankful for the help and support I have received since joining in 2013 and also try and help and give back where I cansmile.

Vintagejazz Thu 07-Jul-22 12:33:54

Whiff

I have reported what are adverts. Also reported some posters when they attacked someone.

On one occasion someone said I must have abused my son. When I fought back guess what she was believed and my post got deleted and had a warning from GNHQ. When I pointed out what she said and why I fought back I got an apology from GNHQ.

I have never abused anyone let alone my own son. Where was the fairness in that. Since then I don't acknowledge she exists on any thread.

We have all read things that people have posted and they have gone to far. A poster I was friends with left GN for over a year because of being bullied . But glad to see her back under a new name.

Life is not black and white but shades of grey. Something's people post is because they can't say in the real world. And I know how much help and support I have had since I joined in 2019 . I try and repay that help where I can.

That's the problem. Some posters become so determined to keep defending their viewpoint, they lose all sense of compassion. I have seen one or two people continue to harass or insult a poster even when it has become obvious, as the thread evolves, that they've suffered a recent bereavement or are going through some other difficulty.

Most posters would just say ',I'm sorry to hear that' and pull back from the thread. But some just keep going, because having the last word or continuing a pile on is more important than showing a bit of kindness.

Chewbacca Thu 07-Jul-22 13:00:19

I'm perplexed by members who get banned for repeatedly breaching the same guidelines over and over again, promise to mend their ways and beg to be allowed back; come back with a new username, and then continue with the same behaviour that got them banned in the first place! And they always see themselves as the victim! grin grin

The roolz are the same for everyone but some find them harder to stick to than others.

FarNorth Thu 07-Jul-22 13:07:04

When I pointed out what she said and why I fought back I got an apology from GNHQ.

It's good to know that that can happen Whiff.

Doodledog Thu 07-Jul-22 13:09:04

If someone isn't banned, but makes themselves unpopular (and is perhaps on the verge of a ban) so lies low for a while then comes back with a different username, will HQ link the two accounts when the 'Newbie' goes back to their own ways?

I don't have any issue with people starting again with a clean slate, but there is a difference between that and stepping back from the brink and returning so that there is no history or context for HQ to consider.

nanna8 Thu 07-Jul-22 13:12:18

I don’t think people should come back with a different name. Especially as it is quite obvious who they are anyway. Pointless exercise.

Casdon Thu 07-Jul-22 13:14:26

Don’t you have to join via your email account Doodeldog? If that’s still the case, and assuming people don’t join through a different email account GNHQ would always now who they are regardless of the name they use on Gransnet.
I’d always assumed that there was a procedure in place on here a bit like the disciplinary process at work. You get two warnings, then a final warning, and if you do the same thing again you’re dismissed. Obviously if you commit gross misconduct you can be instantly dismissed. Am I wrong in assuming that?

MissAdventure Thu 07-Jul-22 13:20:56

It's simple to set up any amount of email accounts, as this thread demonstrates.

Chewbacca Thu 07-Jul-22 13:26:27

Or hide behind a VPN.

Doodledog Thu 07-Jul-22 13:26:29

It's very easy to set up a new email address though. i have several, for different purposes. Nothing sinister - just one for hobby-related messages, one for work, one for times when you have to give an email but know you will be spammed, and so on.

I have no real idea of the process here. It seems deliberately vague, but I wasn't meaning when someone was actually banned (HQ could IP ban them, which is a lot trickier to get around than email changes). I meant that if someone had been nasty to a lot of people, realised that they were close to getting banned, lay low for a while, then came back as a supposed Newbie. No record, no way of posters knowing who they are - at least until their posting style gives them away. What I am wondering is, if GN look at things in context, will they join the dots with new iterations of the same poster?

GagaJo Thu 07-Jul-22 13:26:33

Chewbacca

I'm perplexed by members who get banned for repeatedly breaching the same guidelines over and over again, promise to mend their ways and beg to be allowed back; come back with a new username, and then continue with the same behaviour that got them banned in the first place! And they always see themselves as the victim! grin grin

The roolz are the same for everyone but some find them harder to stick to than others.

Me too. And they're usually the old guard.

Casdon Thu 07-Jul-22 13:28:56

MissAdventure

It's simple to set up any amount of email accounts, as this thread demonstrates.

You’ve lost me there MissAdventure, how would we know if somebody had misled GNHQ and provided a different email address after they had been banned - do you mean when they are recognised from what they say on threads under their new persona?

MissAdventure Thu 07-Jul-22 13:32:26

Some of the deleted posts on here were from one of the people (I presume) who have been (I presume) suspended.

The fact that they came straight in and started on the same member in the usual way kind of out them.