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Another poor child killed at the hands of his parent and lover

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BlueBelle Fri 22-Jul-22 20:04:07

www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-leeds-62163849

This beautiful teenage boy was beaten and tortured for months at the hands of his mother and lover I hope they not only rot in prison for ever but they are beaten till they beg themselves

Something HAS to be done to protect our children I don’t believe in the death penalty but there has to be something more than a few years of being ‘looked after’

Smileless2012 Sat 23-Jul-22 15:39:58

They should never get out mokryna. They are not fit even for human company. For me, as we don't have the death penalty, life should mean life.

Curlywhirly Sat 23-Jul-22 15:49:48

Can't read the details, I know I'm a coward, but I just wouldn't be able to put it out of my mind. Where were the neighbours in this? Surely someone must have heard the screams and arguments? I'd be knocking on their door and asking what on earth was going on and I'd be speaking to teachers, SS and the NSPCC. I couldn't live next door to parents tormenting their children and do nothing!

tickingbird Sat 23-Jul-22 16:25:47

The man has proposed to her and apparently her response was “yes, yes, yes”. They shouldn’t be allowed to marry. I was going to say I hope they go the way of little Daniel Pelka’s torturers and kill themselves but that’s no punishment.

Another case where, amongst other abuse, the bully boy partner forces the child to do gym exercises as punishment. Almost like being punished in the army by a sadistic drill sergeant. These men are sadistic bullies and the women are pathetic, useless and selfish. I can’t tell you how much I hate them.

MissAdventure Sat 23-Jul-22 16:28:47

That is what happened to the little soul who cried that nobody loved him.
He was forced to maintain stress positions for hours and hours, while his parents filmed themselves stuffing their ugly mouths with McDonalds.

BlueBelle Sat 23-Jul-22 16:32:57

I don’t think a death penalty is the answer what punishment is that, over and done with in minutes
This sounds medieval but they should have done to them what they did to the child They should have their bones broken and needles stuck in them they should be shut in a room for 24 hours a day no exercising and that monster should not be able to go to the prison gym or yard or use any equipment… left over food on a tray in their cell Yes their human rights should be hurt because they are not human They took everything away from that poor little lad he sounds as if he had no other family here
juicyLucy I may be wrong but I don’t think this lad was known to the social services you can’t blame them for everything

Grandma70s Sat 23-Jul-22 16:35:50

Aren’t some of you worried by your own vicious feelings? You should be. They clearly show how such inhuman violence happens.

sharon103 Sat 23-Jul-22 16:42:28

R.I.P Sebastian.
I hope they get what they deserve in prison if you know what I mean.
Life should mean life.

Kandinsky Sat 23-Jul-22 16:42:32

No I’m not worried.

BlueBelle Sat 23-Jul-22 16:46:37

Not in the least Grandna70 I ve never hurt anyone in my life but I d have a go if a child’s life was being destroyed
I ve really no idea what you mean
Are you defending child killers ? WOW

FarNorth Sat 23-Jul-22 16:48:14

Grandma70s don't be silly.

Kate1949 Sat 23-Jul-22 16:49:56

Not worried here

Shinamae Sat 23-Jul-22 16:52:09

Grandma70s

Aren’t some of you worried by your own vicious feelings? You should be. They clearly show how such inhuman violence happens.

Really!!!!

Robin49 Sat 23-Jul-22 16:59:40

Grandma70s

Aren’t some of you worried by your own vicious feelings? You should be. They clearly show how such inhuman violence happens.

Not remotely worried. I hope they rot in hell.

Mollygo Sat 23-Jul-22 17:05:47

Not worried. The difference I'd not use that sort of violence . . . unless someone attacked my children or grandchildren.
I do think that the ‘human rights’ of people who do that sort of thing especially to children need to be curtailed. No free time, no choice of meals, no visits, no luxuries like TV etc. It seems so unfair that that child will have nothing, no future, no life and the perpetrators simply get their liberty removed.

Chestnut Sat 23-Jul-22 17:20:05

The child(ren) not only lost their life and future but suffered most horribly. I agree these creatures should have no luxuries or visits, plain food, solitary confinement most of the time, no TV or internet access at all, ever. They can have some books.... let them read godly, pure things just to annoy them. The Bible, Pilgrim's Progress, what else?

Smileless2012 Sat 23-Jul-22 17:28:09

No I'm not worried either. I don't think that wanting life to be for life in the absence of the death penalty in cases like this, is being vicious.

Grandma70s Sat 23-Jul-22 17:32:18

BlueBelle

Not in the least Grandna70 I ve never hurt anyone in my life but I d have a go if a child’s life was being destroyed
I ve really no idea what you mean
Are you defending child killers ? WOW

Of course not. My turn to say “Don’t be silly”. I said absolutely nothing to indicate I was defending them.

Why I mean is that it’s clear many people have violent feelings, though they direct them differently. Violent revenge gets you nowhere, just takes you down to their level. Rehabilitation is better if possible, otherwise strict confinement. No need to add extra nastiness to that to satisfy feelings of revenge. We are, I hope, not that primitive.

Kate1949 Sat 23-Jul-22 17:34:53

Rehabilitation won't bring that child back. It's easy for offenders to say 'I won't do it again' or 'I am full of remorse' or 'I have turned to God'. Not good enough.

Grandma70s Sat 23-Jul-22 17:41:18

Kate1949

Rehabilitation won't bring that child back. It's easy for offenders to say 'I won't do it again' or 'I am full of remorse' or 'I have turned to God'. Not good enough.

What do you suggest, then? Violent punishments won’t bring them back, either.

Kate1949 Sat 23-Jul-22 17:42:56

No but at least they'd get a taste of their own medicine.

Chewbacca Sat 23-Jul-22 17:49:45

Am I worried about my own vicious feelings? Not one little bit Grandna70
Would I wish on them what they did to that child? Yes. And more.

Serendipity22 Sat 23-Jul-22 18:01:56

I read this this morning, fills me with sadness, the poor, poor lad. I mean turning up for school and nobody was any the wiser of his suffering.

Shocking and heartbreaking. sad

Kate1949 Sat 23-Jul-22 18:04:13

I'm afraid it's head in the sand time for me. Reading what was done do that beautiful child was too much. I won't read any more of these stories

MissAdventure Sat 23-Jul-22 18:05:45

Me neither.
I'm a real true crime buff, but these are just too much to take.

Chewbacca Sat 23-Jul-22 18:18:53

Same here MissA; I can read, listen or watch any true crime but not where children are involved. In my opinion, child killers should serve whole life terms, with no chance of parole. Baby Pc's mother was out in 13 years. Mairiead & Mick Phillpot murdered 6 of their children and she was released after 8 years. What does that say about the value of a life of a child?