So now we know why the Queen died

Well said, icanhandthemback, re Grammy Grammy. Troll, or just bitter and twisted, do you think?

volver

I understand that outgoing Prime Ministers have to see the monarch to resign and incoming ones have to see the monarch to be formally asked to form a government.

If you (general) want to have a 96 year old monarch who is still head of state, then these are the thing that they have to do. Nobody asked for it or any such thing. Comes with the job.

ITA. Logic wins.

Calendargirl

^Her Majesty went into deep decline when her darling Philip passed away^

Not true. You make her sound like Queen Victoria. Although very sad I’m sure, the Queen still ‘carried on carrying on’, with or without Philip by her side. She was ageing and getting frailer, at 95 what else really.

‘Stoic’ is the word that sums her up, and the same word applies to her daughter.

I don’t actually agree with that. I thought she coped fine !

Re the queens cause of death….. my mother had no cancer or anything and at age 95 she was fine one day , felt ill enough to go to hospital that night.
Family summoned in the morning . Mum sitting up having cup of tea, but died that afternoon.

GrammyGrammy

Witzend

I know of two women in their 90s who hadn’t been at all ill, who just died in their sleep, so I dare say those were cases of ‘old age’.
A brilliant way to go, IMO, albeit a nasty shock for the relatives who wondered why they weren’t answering the phone/door, and found them.

Pittcity, my mother died at 97, with advanced dementia. IIRC the death certificate said Alz./old age.

I think 'a nasty shock' for relatives who leave parents living alone in their nineties is well deserved wages of their neglect. And the smell of their decomposition will hopefully be stronger in their nostrils forevermore for every single day they left them living so vulnerably alone. People die of neglect. No one old and vulnerable who has family should live entirely alone. Cue the self-righteous selfish abandoners...

FGS, these were both women who had chosen to live independently, who lived very close to daughters who phoned or looked in every day, and helped whenever needed. Both had been seen or spoken to, and had been quite well, the day before.

There was no neglect! So please don’t make unfounded assumptions.

I might add that plenty of older people have no wish to move in with family, however well they may get on with them. Independence is often fiercely prized in older age.

My father had ‘Frailty of age’ on his death certificate. He was 96 and had stage 4 kidney disease.
I did ask the nurse the night before he died how many stages there are to kidney disease and she said 3! I was just glad it was a very peaceful death and I was with him when he died.

GrammyGrammy’s post is disgraceful.

My mother's death certificate said old age. She was 98. Everything was worn out. What more was there to say?

Germanshepherdsmum

*GrammyGrammy*’s post is disgraceful.

Oh probably the sort of person who sweeps through others lives “doing good” making them thoroughly miserable and wallowing in her own righteousness.

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Elizabeth died of a broken heart, she held on for as long as she could and fulfilled her duties, 70th jubilee.

Those of you who know my posts will know that I'm about as far from a monarchist as you can get. And threads like this just make me more convinced than ever.

First there's prurient speculation about bone cancer and strokes.

Then there is sentimental talk of deep declines and broken hearts as though she was a Disney Princess.

It's not the republicans who have no respect, it's you lot.

Aussiegrandma01

Elizabeth died of a broken heart, she held on for as long as she could and fulfilled her duties, 70th jubilee.

How do you know she died of a broken heart? Sorry but that’s sentimental nonsense.

Oops sorry Volver … great minds etc !!

I’m not being her wingman before anyone starts

Lucca ?

The late Queen was 96. Her beloved husband had died, but I don’t think they lived in each other’s pockets - she had lots of other family too. She was old and frail. There is no escaping that. It seems she reached the end peacefully. I know a lady in my village who is 96. She walks around the village, using a stick, twice a day. Yet she looks frail and isn’t always sure of what she is saying. If and when she dies it will be because she is old. If we don’t die of an illness, we eventually wear out.

Not sentimental nonsense, she did die of old age and I’m sure she would have lived longer if Philip was still alive.

'tis though. ?

This is the point. People think they knew her and can imagine what her life was like. You don't know and you never will. So it's all sentimental speculation and I find it very distasteful to do that to a person who has recently died.

When a piece of machinery packs up and is judged to be irreparable, it's put down to 'wear and tear'. I think that's what got the better of Her Majesty, but 'old age' is a polite way of putting it.

Someone will suggest Meghan is the Disney Princess at some point, so I'll just get it over and done with

Isn't she Maleficient?

I've not heard of that one....

??volver

Does it really matter? She was 96... Quite obvious really.

My mum and dad have their death as 'old age'. They were age 93 and 94 when they died. Both were frail and had memory problems but they each just died suddenly. Your body gives up one day no matter what.

It’s far better than ‘senile decay’ which appears on my great great grandfather’s death certificate. Same thing, more kindly put.

volver

Isn't she Maleficient?

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