So now we know why the Queen died

My mother died at 98 and the cause on the death certificate said “extreme old age”
I feel a bit of a voyeur reading the Queen’s death certificate. I don’t really feel it’s anything to do with anyone outside her family.

of course we know what her life was like, she had every human experience and obviously more. She was like most of us a loving wife, mother and grandmother. Im responding to you because of the ‘tis though’ comment. Not nice considering we all have our own perspective tis tis

I always suspected it could be fatal.

Whatever the cause of the Queen's death it is - or should have been- a private matter for her family. 'Shameful that somebody chose to print her death certificate in a national newspaper .

It's not the republicans who have no respect, it's you lot.

Volver, I suspect there are Republicans with the same interest/lack of respect. Equally, if we were a republic and the HoS died in office (or out of it for that matter) there would be the same interest. Come to that, if it were the woman up the road, no doubt the neighbours would wonder too.

Thank you, micmc47. I've read other similar posts from this poster so it may well be just a state of mind!

Lathyrus, my thoughts too.

While many are curious out of high regards of the Queen, I don't think we need to know details. I'm happy she didn't linger in bed for weeks or months, the way I watched my MIL die of similar age.

She had been under close medical supervision, and there could have been any number of health failures at that age. Do we really need to know?

I'm sure in time there will be some expose in a daily rag by some servant letting everyone know the details. I'm not interested. RIP Your Majesty.

volver Talk in terms like "deep decline" and "broken heart" is not because they are monarchists, it is because they are people who talk like that.

icanhandthemback

^It's not the republicans who have no respect, it's you lot.^

Volver, I suspect there are Republicans with the same interest/lack of respect. Equally, if we were a republic and the HoS died in office (or out of it for that matter) there would be the same interest. Come to that, if it were the woman up the road, no doubt the neighbours would wonder too.

Thank you, micmc47. I've read other similar posts from this poster so it may well be just a state of mind!

Lathyrus, my thoughts too.

We republicans are repeatedly told that we have no respect for the RF, that talking about republicanism at a time of national mourning is unacceptable, that there is nobody better than the current monarch to do the job.

But I haven't seen any republicans mulling over if the Queen had bone cancer, or waxing lyrical about how she did her duty to the last day.

The first is disrespectful, whoever we are and whether we are talking about a Queen or the woman up the road. Its none of our business.

The second is based on this spurious idea that we know exactly what she was like and that she was hanging on just for us.

It's what the RF and their press office want you to believe and how they want you to act, and it seems that it's working.

I think this thread should be taken down as it is speculative and disrespectful and serves no purpose whatsoever.

Germanshepherdsmum

kiligran

Old age …..and a broken heart. Her Majesty when into deep decline when her darling Philip passed away.

Deep decline? I think that’s overstating it somewhat. She became more frail, as you would expect at her age and having lost her husband of many years, but didn’t go into ‘deep decline’.

If you look at photographs of Her Majesty in May and the photo of her with the Prime Minister there is a huge difference in her appearance. There is barely 4 months between those dates so I don’t think it’s overstating it at all.

Philip died in April 2021. Over a year earlier than the first photo you refer to.

Well, I think it’s strange that the real cause of death wasn’t mentioned either.

Just to say Old age is very vague.
She must have had something final to finish her of.

they say death certificates should be read backwards but I think it is fair to say she was old

none of us need to know anything else, it's so mawkish

Old age seems a perfectly satisfactory reason for the death of a 96 year old. Does it really make any difference whether it was heart attack, stroke, heart failure or just a quiet slipping away?

As a retired GP I always found being able to write Old Age on a death certificate very useful if there was no evidence for a definite event like a heart attack , stroke or pulmonary embolus. Sometimes people just fade away and it is hard to beat Old age as an accurate cause of death.

Maybe she had no will to go on after losing Prince Phillip.

merlotgran

Well, something hastened her demise and it's normally mentioned, e.g., pneumonia, stroke, heart attack etc.

There was a last minute panic to get her close relatives there so 'old age' sounds like the kind of thing you tell a grandchild when the beloved old family dog has just died.

I reckon the catalyst was having to deal with Boris Johnson & Liz Truss 48 hours before her death.

As I've said before, there's nothing remotely unusual about having Old Age on a death certificate.

I'm not sure why people are questioning it.

I've seen a great many death certificates over the years and there's plenty of Old Age deaths recorded

I did see one that said Old Age due to Sedentary Lifestyle. I would I imagine that at 101, sedentary living was pretty much the norm

Merlotgran there was nothing remarkably hastened about the Queen's death. It is quite common for someone of her age to have been drifting gently downhill for many months, as the Queen had since Prince Phillip died and then one morning not to wake up, or as in her case, suddenly tip over the edge, so that the family have to be sent for at speed.

Perfectly normal.

On one of my ancestors death certificates cause of death is said to be ‘visitation of god’!!!

M0nica

Merlotgran there was nothing remarkably hastened about the Queen's death. It is quite common for someone of her age to have been drifting gently downhill for many months, as the Queen had since Prince Phillip died and then one morning not to wake up, or as in her case, suddenly tip over the edge, so that the family have to be sent for at speed.

Perfectly normal.

A bit like a very old car, where all the parts start to wear out and rust, and finally the engine gives up? (Not being flippant, just a parallel.)

I take it none of those who smell a conspiracy to see her off "prematurely" have had a relative live to a healthy old age, 90 or 100 or more, then fail rapidly in all departments over a few months before dying suddenly and peacefully of nothing-in-particular?

I watched a documentary about Harold Shipman, who signed off many of the deaths of his patients as just "old age". It was subsequently proposed that "old age" was not, on its own, a specific enough cause because it could encourage misuse.

When my Mum died, 4 weeks shy of her 100th birthday, following being hospitalised after a fall which fractured her hip, she had to have a post mortem to establish the exact cause - this delayed her funeral several weeks.

Same with my Mum- they did a pm because they weren’t exactly sure of the cause of death.. I am sure the queen had the absolute best of care and faded away gracefully in the presence of her family.