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WadesNan Mon 31-Oct-22 13:22:50

A few months ago I had some work done on my house. I was very pleased with the result and the workmanship was excellent. However, the tradesman was an out and out racist. He blames "foreigners" for everything that is wrong with the country - unaware that I was married to a "foreigner" for over 40 years. I told him I disagreed with his views and didn't want to discuss it with him - but that didn't stop him!

I now want to have more work done and have been asking around for recommendations, unfortunately, everyone recommends this man. They all agree with me about his views but mainly deal with it by remaining in a different room.

1. I don't want to have to hide away in my own home and
2. I am reluctant to give work to someone whose views I find so obnoxious

So, should I employ him for the quality of his work and try to ignore his comments or employ someone else and risk having inferior work done

silverlining48 Mon 31-Oct-22 13:25:02

Difficult, but I would try to find someone else to do the work.

Grandmabatty Mon 31-Oct-22 13:26:26

You don't know that someone else will provide an inferior service. I would not willingly employ someone again whom I knew to be racist.

Hithere Mon 31-Oct-22 13:57:41

Other contractor for sure

crazyH Mon 31-Oct-22 14:02:35

Get another tradesman. I’m sure there are many open-minded tradesmen, who will be glad of the job and will do it well.

Nannarose Mon 31-Oct-22 14:47:02

I think you have to find someone else.
Ethical issues and moral stands aside - "that didn't stop him" is a red flag for anyone who is in your home.
When you ask around, I suggest that you don't go into much detail about his views - I would say 'He made me feel uncomfortable, and ignored what I said'.
That way you are a woman concerned for her safety in her own home, not a woke-eating tofuraty (or whatever the phrase is!)
Consider asking if Age Concern or a similar organisation has a Trusted Tradesman list.

I also think that if word got back to him that he made you feel uncomfortable he may view it differently.

Wyllow3 Mon 31-Oct-22 15:30:16

Hear hear everybody it it not to be tolerated. This can be how hatred gets perpetrated, by not acting. Very very best to find another.

Prentice Mon 31-Oct-22 15:37:27

The not stopping is most definitely a red flag indeed.
For that reason alone I would find another workman.It is your home and your rules.

25Avalon Mon 31-Oct-22 15:41:45

If he’s spending all his time chatting to you and passing on his racist views how is he an efficient workman? If you are not comfortable with a workman in your house for whatever reason you should not employ them. There are other workmen out there and I am sure you should be able to find one who is more respectful. I would never employ someone I did not feel happy to have in my house.

WadesNan Mon 31-Oct-22 16:26:33

Thanks for the replies - really just supporting what I had already decided.

Apart from his lack of awareness that I didn't share his views or wanted to discuss them I feel to employ him again would be disrespectful to my late DH. So it is on with the search for another tradesman

Forsythia Mon 31-Oct-22 16:29:33

Look on Checkatrade. We get all ours from there. Get 3 quotes and decide who you think will do the job properly and you’d feel happy having in the home.

BlueBelle Mon 31-Oct-22 16:41:22

Sorry but a racist wouldn’t be accepted in my house if he was the only tradesman in my town I couldn’t accept his help and I couldn’t pay him for his very vocal ideas
I cannot abide racists of any shape or form and they would NEVER come into my house twice
I m totally behind you find someone else as quick as you can don’t have him in your house however good a workman he is he’s got no judgement has he or he would have kept his vile views to himself

HousePlantQueen Mon 31-Oct-22 17:09:12

Would not be welcome in my home either, not just for his racist and ignorant views, but because when asked, he didn't have the courtesy to stop spouting his opinions in my home.

Shelflife Mon 31-Oct-22 17:11:44

Find someone else ! In your position I wouldn't want him in my house.

Theexwife Mon 31-Oct-22 17:48:15

I would tell as many people as possible that he has lost a job with you because he is racist in the hope it gets back to him.

lemsip Mon 31-Oct-22 17:58:26

remain in a different room!

HousePlantQueen Mon 31-Oct-22 18:23:43

lemsip

remain in a different room!

Why? Where do you draw the line?

Ladyleftfieldlover Mon 31-Oct-22 18:40:16

We had someone to fit new windows in our conservatory. I couldn’t believe some of the racist stuff he was coming out with. Fortunately by the time we needed more windows he had retired. I wouldn’t have employed him again and OH agreed.

Dickens Mon 31-Oct-22 19:35:58

lemsip

remain in a different room!

How can you simply remain in one room when someone is working in your house? Or more to the point - why should you?

He's being paid to do a job, not run a campaign for the National Front, or whatever they call themselves now.

welbeck Tue 01-Nov-22 00:47:15

no comment on the OP as such, but just to say that i think if someone is working in your house, you should let them get on with it.
i've known several different tradesmen who found it annoying and distracting to have people hovering around when they are trying to get on with the job.
one was a man who was always reaching up to touch the leg of a decorator while he was up a ladder, with pretence of helping/offering tea/telling him to be careful etc.
decorator had to order him out of the room on the grounds of safety...

am not suggesting OP behaved like this.

BlueBelle Tue 01-Nov-22 05:49:39

Well that was a bit off piste welbeck no point in blaming wadesnan for not getting out the way of a sprouting racist
We have no idea if she just went in to offer him tea and biscuit and got caught up in his tirade do we ?

Drop him like a hot cake and make sure you let others know why

WadesNan Tue 01-Nov-22 09:29:18

welbeck I only spoke to him when offering tea/coffee at which time he spent 20 minutes telling me his views - all while I was backing away. He launched into another diatribe when he was leaving - standing in the doorway so I couldn't shut it. I don't hover when people are working in my house and I certainly never touch them!!

nanna8 Tue 01-Nov-22 09:44:56

No I wouldn’t have him in the house, either. Plenty of other nicer fish in the sea.

henetha Tue 01-Nov-22 10:26:30

I would never let him darken my door again. Racism is evil.
I hope you find someone else .

biglouis Tue 01-Nov-22 10:49:01

Most of the trades I use are local people from various ethnic groups (I live in a very diverse area) and I dont give a damn about their views as long as they do the work to a professional standard. There are "ways of speaking" in a brisk clipped tone which discourage chit chat. Learned from many years of managing customers and client groups.

I leave tradesmen to get on with the work. I have a business to run so I go into my office and leave them to it. I usually direct them to where tea/coffee/cold drinks/the toilet are located and tell them to help themselves if they want a drink. That way they will finish sooner and be gone. I always ask up front how long they expect the job to take which is a pretty broad hint that I want them gone asap. Well regarded self employed trades tend to be backed up with work so dont have time to chat.