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I’m fuming!

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NanKate Mon 07-Nov-22 16:29:22

My lovely 97 year old friend has a birthday today. Her daughter was taking her to The Ivy for a celebratory lunch. She was so looking forward to it. However the daughter was held up for hours on the M25 by the Protesters on the gantries. So my friend never had her birthday lunch or saw her daughter. I’m so disappointed for her.

We are a democracy so I am not against protests per se, but when they cause such chaos and upset it’s unforgivable.

Caleo Thu 10-Nov-22 18:48:00

How else can man made climate change be brought to the policymakers' attention?

Polite requests clearly don't interest people.

Even decent intelligent older people like on Gransnet seldom talk about the danger to their grandchildren from climate change.

Lathyrus Thu 10-Nov-22 18:48:26

I think it’s all part of the selfie/fame/internet etc culture.

It’s not the cause they care about. It’s the chance to become famous.

Even if it’s a pathetic little picture for a day in the Daily Mail.

I bet they have it blown up to a giant poster size and frame it for their room.😬

rosie1959 Thu 10-Nov-22 18:55:28

And how much difference are these idiots going to make absolutely zilch.
I am surprised they are allowed to get away with for so long

Allsorts Thu 10-Nov-22 18:56:33

I like others are so many others are doing their bit for climate change, no time for these protestors, I feel so sorry for that man missing his mothers funeral.

HeavenLeigh Thu 10-Nov-22 18:58:02

Aww how sad

Lathyrus Thu 10-Nov-22 19:00:21

Caleo

How else can man made climate change be brought to the policymakers' attention?

Polite requests clearly don't interest people.

Even decent intelligent older people like on Gransnet seldom talk about the danger to their grandchildren from climate change.

In democracies nobody will take the drastic actions that would be needed to slow down climate change because there would be a massive outcry, court actions, demonstrations, demands for a change of government because nobody, myself included, is prepared to change their lives to the extent that we would need to change or lives.

The protesters still want their commodities made across the world and shipped or flown here. Look at what they’re wearing.
Their travels - cue South American photos or getting to their protest.
Their food again shipped across the world.

Their………well their lives full of the things they want.

Just like the rest of us.

They’ve achieved nothing.

yogitree Thu 10-Nov-22 19:09:31

I'm sorry for this lady and others whose plans went awry, however this is a serious issue and needs people to wake up and smell the daisies. I imagine this is their effort to make this happen. As someone above said, we need to plan how this is going to work. We DO need to stop oil.

M0nica Thu 10-Nov-22 21:09:27

In this country, we are stopping oil and gas and are doing better than many other countries. 50% of our electricity now comes from renewable and carbon neutral sources, lighting technology and car design also mean that the amount of fuel consumed by cars and use in lighting has fallen considerably because of this efficiency.

Where we lag behind (sorry) is in insulation, in homes, offices and industry. So far government initatives have been so badly structured they are a failure.

biglouis Thu 10-Nov-22 21:36:54

I just today filled out a YUGOV poll on this. The dominant opinion (which I share) was that the right to protest is integral to a democratic society. However protesters should not be able to employ violence or tactics which cause inconvenience to others such as blocking roads, etc. The courts should deal with them much more harshly. Think how the suffragettes were treated by forced feeding and the "cat and mouse" laws.

biglouis Thu 10-Nov-22 21:41:08

How many private jets were at COP27? Cant these bloody people fly commercial?

Saetana Thu 10-Nov-22 21:47:13

Wow - I think we have finally found a topic on Gransnet on which we all agree! Roger Hallam is a very dangerous man who leads something akin to a cult in Just Stop Oil - apparently they are recruiting lonely young people from universities to join the protests, telling them basically that the world is going end pretty much NOW! Fortunately he is currently on remand for his activities - they only remand people who are highly likely to get a custodial sentence, lets hope its a long one! I heard that recording of that poor guy who missed his father's funeral - devastating...

M0nica Fri 11-Nov-22 08:17:40

Saetana I am so relieved to read your post. I have made several posts on the back ground and history of Roger Hallam that show that he is a very dangerous man, whose main aim in life is to disrupt society and lead to its eventual breakdown and that all these disruptive climate change groups he has formed and their tactics are just a means to an end.

I was quite disturbed to see how few, if any people, actually took this on board.

Saetana Fri 11-Nov-22 13:37:30

M0nica - yes he has been remanded in Wandsworth Prison until his case comes to court in December. Let's hope he gets a nice long sentence - a very dangerous man indeed.