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nanafunny Tue 13-Dec-22 17:48:43

My son has been co-parenting his 13 year old son since he was born, as his first partner no longer wanted to be in a relationship.
Everything has gone smoothly between him and his ex in the upbringing of our grandson.
My son has been in a new relationship for the past four years and he and his new partner have bought a house together and my grandson is very happy with situation and has always been made to feel special with his own bedroom in their new house. however, my ex husband has refused to accept my sons lovely new partner and her two beautiful children.
I'm spending Christmas with them and he has asked my daughter to give me a cheque to pass to our son for Christmas and one for our only birth grandchild. he said he was not giving to, 'her or her children'.
I will add that he is very comfortable financially but can be mean minded.
should I refuse to pass on cheques?
I find this behaviour upsetting and would appreciate views pro or con, thanks

Ilovecheese Tue 13-Dec-22 18:06:11

Your ex can't make your son spend the money as your ex wants it spent. Your son can just spend the money on the whole family.

Siope Tue 13-Dec-22 18:06:31

I’m a birth and step-grandmother, my own children were co-parented by two stellar step-parents, and in your shoes, I would not be colluding in your ex-husband’s nastiness.

Theexwife Tue 13-Dec-22 18:08:27

I would not pass on the cheques, he is trying to exert control and he cannot control this situation. Why can he not be pleased that his son and grandson have made a happy family with a partner and child?

Zoejory Tue 13-Dec-22 18:08:57

That's so sad. I have a friend who experienced similar. I don't understand it at all. I think I'd rip.up the cheque.

Yammy Tue 13-Dec-22 18:18:08

I think I would tell your son and see what he thinks, then if he asks for advice send the cheque back to your ex-partner saying it was given with the wrong sentiments.

ExDancer Tue 13-Dec-22 18:21:58

I can see where he's coming from, its a very male way of thinking (yea yea I know thats a sweeping generalisation), I do understand it but I find it unattractive too, and I'd want no part in it myself. This idea that he wants nothing to do with 'her' or 'her children' is quite childish don't you think?
However you're stuck in the middle and its unkind of him to put you there.
I think I'd put the cheques in an envelope and hand it to your son saying ' this is from your father for Christmas. Your son will (with luck) spend his cheque on the family, and put the other in his elder son's savings account for later years. No need to mention the cruelty of missing out the step children.
Depending on your relationship with the grandad, I'd say in future he can hand over the money himself or post it, but refuse to be his messenger again, its unfair to expect you to take 'sides' where children are concerned.
I don't suppose his step children want his bl**ding money anyway.

Casdon Tue 13-Dec-22 18:22:51

Why is your ex husband using you as the intermediary with your son? I think I’d tell him that you’re not prepared to take it on, as you disagree with him, and let him sort it out directly with your son.

Georgesgran Tue 13-Dec-22 18:39:19

I, too, wondered about this man and his relationship with his son and if he is as hostile about his son’s partner and her children to his face.
As others have said, I wouldn’t act as the messenger either.

MissAdventure Tue 13-Dec-22 19:48:33

Tell your ex to deliver the cheques and explain. (Unless you really think he would?)

Cabbie21 Tue 13-Dec-22 19:54:06

I would just hand the cheques over, as ExDancer says, and say nothing about not including the others. . I don’t understand why he can’t communicate more directly with his son, but that’s not your problem. As to whether or not he includes the ” new” family members, again, not your problem. Try not to let it get to you.

Norah Tue 13-Dec-22 19:59:42

I'd hand my child the cheques, with the instructions from his father and say "do as you wish, I'm just the messenger, I don't approve the message"

I'd refuse to take part in future.

Stupid X, for good reasons I'd bet.

Lexisgranny Tue 13-Dec-22 20:01:35

Just tell him to sort it out himself, don’t get involved and don’t tell your son. Your ex husband may think better of it if he has to deal with it himself, and by pre-warning your son you may cause unnecessary friction.

veejay Tue 13-Dec-22 22:04:24

I had a similar situation with.my husbands mother
I married someone who already had 4 chilfren.
We went on to have twins.his mother said she would never accept them as her grandchildren .even though they were his own
My rd had a wealthy uncle in Australia.When he died my exes 4 children were left quite a lot of money.my twins are excluded
I divorced my husband on the grounds of ctuelty.He was very nasty to my son and daughter.mainly my son.and violent
When his mother died he and his other children were left money.our twins nothing
I think he could have made sure they got something from what he was left.but no
H had very rarely bothered to see them. Or take them out when they were young.Or pay maintenance either
Neither boys bother about him now.in fact one of them days he's not worth calling a father.he's just a sperm donor

I am very sorry you are being used to pass this message on.from such a cruel man ,tell him to do it himself

ElaineI Tue 13-Dec-22 22:17:24

He could post the cheques in a letter and not involve you at all.

nanafunny Tue 13-Dec-22 22:20:55

thanks for your views everyone.
I will not pass cheques on

Wyllow3 Tue 13-Dec-22 22:27:53

But if you don't pass the cheques on, you give mean grandpa ammunition to tell son how mean YOU are. I'm with Norah,

"I'd hand my child the cheques, with the instructions from his father and say "do as you wish, I'm just the messenger, I don't approve the message"

After that, play it by ear. Son may decide not to take it or may decide to contact mean Grandpa himself.

VioletSky Tue 13-Dec-22 22:29:00

I would also not pass them on

I'm so sorry you have to deal with this

Families come in all shapes and sizes and sometimes the ones people choose are the best. I'm so glad you don't share his views

Allsorts Tue 13-Dec-22 22:36:45

I would be inclined to tell him to sort it himself. Why does he want to involve you.? . If it were my son I would treat them all the same.

MercuryQueen Tue 13-Dec-22 23:47:17

“I’m not doing your dirty work. If you want to act an ass, don’t be a coward and hide behind me.”

Wyllow3 Wed 14-Dec-22 00:29:35

Presumably son knows all: maybe it partly depends if he really needs the money, nanafunny, does he, might it make a real difference?

All rather pathetic! Sounds ex husband either feels the young new partner has "taken his son away from him" or its sheer sexual jealously from the older man.

Madgran77 Wed 14-Dec-22 06:44:34

Norah

I'd hand my child the cheques, with the instructions from his father and say "do as you wish, I'm just the messenger, I don't approve the message"

I'd refuse to take part in future.

Stupid X, for good reasons I'd bet.

This is what I would do too!

Madgran77 Wed 14-Dec-22 06:51:05

I yhink that not passing on is stepping into something that should be your adult sons decision. Your son is entitled to make his own choices in his relationship with his father, however his father behaves

If you don't want yo be involved atall then send them back to ex and tell him to deal with your son direct

But I think it is a mistake to make decisions specifically on behalf of your son on aspects of his father's "relationship" with him

BlueBelle Wed 14-Dec-22 07:44:14

Why should you be his messenger especially as you don’t agree with the message
Tell your EX husband to do what he wants with his cheque but you’re not his messenger boy
I can see why he’s an EX
CHEEKY MOO

Dickens Wed 14-Dec-22 08:07:48

nanafunny

Do you know why your ex disapproves of your son's new partner? Although if they've been together for 4 years already she's hardly "new".

I'd want to know if I was being used as an intermediary. He's your ex - why is it your job to hand over the cheques? In fact under the circumstances, I'd refuse to do it. It's a 'gesture' being made by him not you as a couple.

Is she aware of his hostility?

Poor woman. She's obviously made her step-son, your grandson, happy and if your son and she are buying a house together, it seems like they are in a serious committed relationship. So what is his beef?

I know some men are fusty in their attitude towards women who have children from a previous relationship - they often assume that they latch on to a man as a 'meal-ticket'.

Whatever the reason, it's petty and spiteful, and he's using your daughter and you as messengers for his ill-natured deed. I'd refuse to be part of it and hand the cheques back telling him to do his own dirty work.

Go and enjoy Christmas with your son, grandson, and your new extended family. I hope you all have a lovely time together.