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Examples of racism,classism etc.

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kircubbin2000 Fri 16-Dec-22 19:46:35

Prejudice about class is common too. Last week dil went into House of Fraser to buy a make up box for a gift.She is not white and had gone in on her way home from work still in uniform and not made up.
After choosing the gift she was given a box which had been fingered over and didn't look clean. When she asked for a different box the girl shoved a tissue at her and told her to wipe it down.
She was too shocked to complain and we think if she had been wearing her normal clothes and jewellery she might have been treated better, but perhaps not.

VioletSky Sat 17-Dec-22 12:40:04

Differently abled people get an awful time of it.

Whether that is being told they don't look disabled and therefore aren't deserving of certain accommodations, find that too many areas have no accommodations or are just unseen and unheard in general.

I really don't understand people's attitudes

25Avalon Sat 17-Dec-22 12:43:31

Blossoming

I’m discriminated against frequently because of disability.

I signed a change.org petition to make it mandatory to include aisle wheelchairs on aeroplanes. It was raised by a disabled youngish lady who was on one airline that did not have an aisle wheelchair. She was told if she wanted the toilet she would have to drag herself there or be carried. Another airline suggested she should wear pads instead. I found that dreadful. There’s constant pushes for anti discrimination for LGBTQ+ , ethnic minorities and sometimes older citizens but very little mention of the disabled.

Ilovecheese Sat 17-Dec-22 12:43:58

That was a very nice and optimistic post chocolatelovinggran .

Oreo Sat 17-Dec-22 13:43:34

25Avalon
A good move on your part.That’s what I mean about doing something and not accepting being a victim.
People have to stand up for their rights, sign a petition, call the manager, email head offices, tell rude or lazy employees what they think of them.

kittylester Sat 17-Dec-22 13:54:47

I agree with you chocolatelovinggran. My younger daughters particularly have friends of all nationalities and colours but never mention that when describing them.

I would say that I am open eyed and open minded - I do notice but it doesn't affect my attitude.

Yammy Sat 17-Dec-22 14:06:57

V3ra

My husband always wore a suit to work, in banking, years ago.

I noticed that if we went to parents' evening at our children's high school we were spoken to much more seriously, respectfully even, if he went in his business suit than if he got changed into his casual clothes before we went 🤨

I found that as well. Husband in suit and they take notice wife alone or dressed casually and you are quickly given a resume and shown the door.
We also found it with DD's A - level results. She missed her chosen University by one point and was told by a teacher to see the head. We stood in a queue. All came out beaming, we went in and were told it was my problem to sort myself.
I thought about all in front, their mothers had helped with choirs etc. School fetes and one I knew had donated quite an amount to the school. I could not help as I worked and had no PE or musical skills.
Lesson learned, show your smart face or money, help at fetes etc. and you get help, be normal and you are shown the door.angry

kircubbin2000 Sat 17-Dec-22 14:48:26

I think sometimes people don't notice a disability. I haven't been out since Sunday because of the black ice in my drive. Im very nervous since I fell and have trouble walking. I called out to my young neighbour when I saw him walking to the shop and he got me milk and bread.I was hoping he would have offered again but I suppose it didn't occur to him that I might be stuck .

Mollygo Sat 17-Dec-22 15:04:00

VioletSky

So we blame the victims of discrimination for not handling it rather than the perpetrators for being terrible humans?

Now guess where have I seen that idea of “the victims should deal with it/complain” instead of blaming the perpetrators for being terrible humans ?

I agree it’s wrong-in any circumstance.

HousePlantQueen Sat 17-Dec-22 15:30:01

BaBaBoom

That's horrifically ageist of your dentist Allsorts. I also saw a classic example of ugly ageism earlier today. Said on a forum, that's aimed specifically at older people, but popuated predominately by older women: ^a sad lot of old biddies you are.^

Yes, I saw that nasty comment too.

VioletSky Sat 17-Dec-22 15:37:21

Sorry Mollygo, I don't understand. Can you explain what you mean please?

biglouis Sat 17-Dec-22 15:47:05

Last time I flew I got into conversation with a fellow passenger when I mentioned that I had to wait on the plane for a wheelchair transfer after everyone else had got off. He said "Well my wife has arthritis but she wouldnt want to make a fuss".

I told him that was up to his wife to decide. I could not answer for her, only for myself. However if no one claimed these legal rights then they would disappear. He was probably sorry he opened his mouth!

Calendargirl Sat 17-Dec-22 15:53:30

BaBaBoom

That's horrifically ageist of your dentist Allsorts. I also saw a classic example of ugly ageism earlier today. Said on a forum, that's aimed specifically at older people, but popuated predominately by older women: ^a sad lot of old biddies you are.^

That remark was here, on GN.

AGAA4 Sat 17-Dec-22 16:13:02

I think airports are neglecting disabled people. Heard quite a few complaints about being left for hours on a plane as the wheelchair hadn't been invaded. Little Tony Hudgells was a victim of this recently. He was left for a very long time without his chair after a flight. Is this discrimination? Why can't wheelchairs be loaded so they are first off the plane?

AGAA4 Sat 17-Dec-22 16:13:42

Unloaded not invaded!

GagaJo Sat 17-Dec-22 21:22:11

AGAA4

I think airports are neglecting disabled people. Heard quite a few complaints about being left for hours on a plane as the wheelchair hadn't been invaded. Little Tony Hudgells was a victim of this recently. He was left for a very long time without his chair after a flight. Is this discrimination? Why can't wheelchairs be loaded so they are first off the plane?

Yes, I think it is discrimination. I also think the airlines just don't want to deal with it and hope disabled passengers will just stop flying.

Train companies also do not do well in relation to those who are differently abled.

LadyHonoriaDedlock Sat 17-Dec-22 22:12:31

House of Fraser isn't the upmarket chain it once was. It's now owned by Mike "the slob" Ashley, sweatshop operator of Sports Direct and one-time much loathed owner of Newcastle United FC.

While I don't doubt that the assistant was being very rude and there might well have been a racist or classist slant to her behaviour, she might also simply be having a bad day given Mr Ashley's reputation for treating staff. Standards are definitely not what they were in Sir Hugh's day!