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Jeremy Clarkson

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Blossoming Sat 17-Dec-22 18:33:02

I used to find him mildly amusing and sometimes offensive, but his latest rant in the pages of The Sun is just sick beyond belief.

www.thenational.scot/news/23197956.jeremy-clarksons-unhinged-rant-nicola-sturgeon-meghan-markle/

volver Sun 18-Dec-22 13:07:41

AND NOT TO BE TAKEN SERIOUSLY.

Just a bit of bants, eh? Nobody hurt. Nobody that matters, anyway. We should have a bit of a sense of humour when strange old men say they lie awake at night thinking of us naked and pelting us with s**t.

Whitewavemark2 Sun 18-Dec-22 13:12:23

Theexwife

I’ve always liked him.

I don’t believe everything I read, just go by from what I have actually seen on TV, that doesn’t tell all about a person but is the only thing I could judge him on.

I’ve attached the piece he wrote in the Sun. Then you can judge for yourself. I assume your moral ground is similar to most thinking people?

Presumably the editor was happy to publish it? The Queen Consort was filmed dancing with the Sun’s editor this week.

The whole thing stinks.

Good post maizie

Callistemon21 Sun 18-Dec-22 13:12:28

Now, we could arrange for a posse of Gransnetters to go round to Diddly Squat and do likewise to him.

The problem is, he'd probably enjoy it.
🤔

Whitewavemark2 Sun 18-Dec-22 13:20:53

Baggs

I just read the original in The Sun – yes, I know! but one should always go to original sources – and it is perfectly clear that it's a total piss-take in Clarkson's usual style AND NOT TO BE TAKEN SERIOUSLY.

That is extraordinarily naive.

Whether Clarkson’s remarks are to be taken seriously or not.

THEY ARE CRASS, FOUL, WITH RACIAL UNDERTONES AND SHOULD NEVER HAVE BEEN PUBLISHED.

We should try replacing Markle’s name with one of our loved ones and see how we would feel about it then.

Personally I would go to the police.

BlueBelle Sun 18-Dec-22 13:21:26

I ve always found him intolerable, a vile egotistic apology for a man a bombastic idiot as you can see I m not an admirer and cannot bear to watch anything he might remotely be in

Theexwife you ‘like’ him …….bloody hell how can anyone ‘like’ a hideous joke of manhood like him Farage sits in a similar category

Do you still ‘like’ him after reading that vile, vile rant

Forsythia Sun 18-Dec-22 13:27:52

Personally, I don’t think Harry is like Basil Brush, a puppet. He gets off far too lightly. He is equally culpable.

Clarkson has gone totally over the top but I don’t think it’s racially motivated, it’s her character that he despises. After all Rose West and Nicola Sturgeon are not black. He throws them into the mix.

Anyway, he’s attracted a lot of attention to himself, possibly more than he envisaged when he wrote it. It will be interesting to see what happens next.

Baggs Sun 18-Dec-22 13:28:26

Please point out the racial undertones, wwmk2. In my naivety I didn't spot them.

This is the link I used: www.thesun.co.uk/news/20782114/harry-meghan-netflix-series-truth/

Whitewavemark2 Sun 18-Dec-22 13:30:34

Baggs

Please point out the racial undertones, wwmk2. In my naivety I didn't spot them.

This is the link I used: www.thesun.co.uk/news/20782114/harry-meghan-netflix-series-truth/

Are you not aware that the KKK carried out these sort of activities in the Southern States?

Forsythia Sun 18-Dec-22 13:31:45

Why would we be aware of the KKK in the southern states. We are not American.

volver Sun 18-Dec-22 13:33:02

Its called "being educated".

Forsythia Sun 18-Dec-22 13:35:28

volver

Its called "being educated".

I’ve never studied American history so call me uneducated if it pleases you although I have the qualifications to prove differently.
I’m not that interested in American racial history. I doubt I’m alone in that.

HousePlantQueen Sun 18-Dec-22 13:36:49

MaizieD

Appalled by Clarkson, by the Sun and by all his supporters and apologists on this thread.

I agree. I expect some apologist for JC to pop up to say its only banter. And maybe to claim that perhaps it is because I am so woke that I find this article grossly offensive.

Forsythia Sun 18-Dec-22 13:40:03

I’d say it’s an article that’s offensive to all women, regardless of colour, regardless of those named in it.

volver Sun 18-Dec-22 13:42:06

Maybe you aren't aware of the racism that went on in other countries. I've never studied American history either. Still able to understand what went on though.

And "not being interested" isn't a get out of jail free card for ignoring the fact that racism went on in the Southern states and was an undercurrent to Clarkson's rant. Along with Jane Shore, another woman who got above her station where the monarchy was concerned. Of course, you may not be interested in that either.

Baggs Sun 18-Dec-22 13:42:17

Whitewavemark2

Baggs

Please point out the racial undertones, wwmk2. In my naivety I didn't spot them.

This is the link I used: www.thesun.co.uk/news/20782114/harry-meghan-netflix-series-truth/

Are you not aware that the KKK carried out these sort of activities in the Southern States?

Which sort of activities? – Writing bilge in The Sun?

Forsythia Sun 18-Dec-22 13:45:19

volver

Maybe you aren't aware of the racism that went on in other countries. I've never studied American history either. Still able to understand what went on though.

And "not being interested" isn't a get out of jail free card for ignoring the fact that racism went on in the Southern states and was an undercurrent to Clarkson's rant. Along with Jane Shore, another woman who got above her station where the monarchy was concerned. Of course, you may not be interested in that either.

I’m not that interested Volver/Allegrias whatever name you’re using at the moment.
Manana manana manana.

VioletSky Sun 18-Dec-22 13:48:50

There are some who still love him

But take comfort, to many he is just a silly irrelevant hasbeen not worth the time to read his comments

volver Sun 18-Dec-22 13:51:17

Forsythia

volver

Maybe you aren't aware of the racism that went on in other countries. I've never studied American history either. Still able to understand what went on though.

And "not being interested" isn't a get out of jail free card for ignoring the fact that racism went on in the Southern states and was an undercurrent to Clarkson's rant. Along with Jane Shore, another woman who got above her station where the monarchy was concerned. Of course, you may not be interested in that either.

I’m not that interested Volver/Allegrias whatever name you’re using at the moment.
Manana manana manana.

Oh, how clever.

I'm going to clean the toilet.

A more intellectual pastime that engaging with some posters on social media.

Kate1949 Sun 18-Dec-22 13:53:35

It was a horrible thing to say but I can't see why it was racist or see any comparison to the KKK.

Glorianny Sun 18-Dec-22 14:26:18

The sexual allegations are interesting in that these were the same things said about Mrs Simpson at the time of the abdication, that she had learned sexual techniques to trap Edward. She was supposed to have learned these in Singapore brothels. There's an interesting novel called The Duchess by Wendy Holden which speculates that she was abused and dragged around the brothels by her first husband.
I thought we'd got past evil women using sex to control men, but maybe it's more to do with Jeremy's fantasies than anything else.

Zoejory Sun 18-Dec-22 14:32:35

Callistemon21

Now, we could arrange for a posse of Gransnetters to go round to Diddly Squat and do likewise to him.

The problem is, he'd probably enjoy it.
🤔

He'd think it hilarious and go on to write an article about it!

Lucca Sun 18-Dec-22 14:34:13

Forsythia

Why would we be aware of the KKK in the southern states. We are not American.

I’m not French but I know about the guillotine.

I’m not South African but I know about apartheid.

EMMF1948 Sun 18-Dec-22 14:37:43

So it would be OK to say it about a man, only women deserve to be protected?

MaizieD Sun 18-Dec-22 14:39:45

Forsythia

volver

Its called "being educated".

I’ve never studied American history so call me uneducated if it pleases you although I have the qualifications to prove differently.
I’m not that interested in American racial history. I doubt I’m alone in that.

Goodness, even in our insular, Britain first, little island the US Civil Rights movement got rather a lot of media coverage in the 1960s & & 70s.

Did it all pass you by?

VioletSky Sun 18-Dec-22 14:58:18

Oh I forgot about Britain First

They were a steaming pile of fox poo weren't they?