Jeremy Clarkson

On James O’Brian at the moment.

A person, whose 14 year old daughter, who’s hair was smeared with excrement recently.

The child was utterly humiliated.

The child is black, the perpetrators were white.

Clarkson should be charged.

Are the bossy know-it-alls outnumbered by the people who comment aggressively but don't bother reading posts first?

Whitewavemark2

Theexwife

I’ve always liked him.

I don’t believe everything I read, just go by from what I have actually seen on TV, that doesn’t tell all about a person but is the only thing I could judge him on.

I’ve attached the piece he wrote in the Sun. Then you can judge for yourself. I assume your moral ground is similar to most thinking people?

Presumably the editor was happy to publish it? The Queen Consort was filmed dancing with the Sun’s editor this week.

The whole thing stinks.

Good post maizie

This is the post that made me look for the original article, maiz.

It does not say that the bit from the photograph, quoting the article was anything to do with KKK. It possibly assumed that everyone would know that already.

I did not. So I was not told as far as I can see. I'm happy to concede that I was told if you or someone else points out where this telling occurred before I admitted my ignorance.

Whitewavemark2

On James O’Brian at the moment.

A person, whose 14 year old daughter, who’s hair was smeared with excrement recently.

The child was utterly humiliated.

The child is black, the perpetrators were white.

Clarkson should be charged.

God, that poor child.

That has brought tears to my eyes.

I think I may have found what people think is me being told. I did read this post before posting on the thread myself. It didn't mean anything more to me than that people thought Clarkson disgusting, which I knew anyway as that's what most of the posts were saying.

Screenshot attached.

So, yeah, there's clear communication and there's indirect communication in which assumptions of other people's knowledge are made and which, if people don't 'get it', can be used against them later.

Sorted.

There was someone on the H&M series commenting about how racism in the UK is covert racism. This seems to be a perfect example. No doubt The Sun has taken legal advice but quite how this can't be a hate crime I don't know. One thing it does highlight for me is the fact that perhaps it is time misogyny was made a hate crime because there is no doubt that this is hostility towards a woman and it should be illegal.

Another here that did not know about the KKK parading black women naked through the streets, although I don’t doubt it happened. A throwback to slavery days when women were paraded naked at slave auctions wether they were black or white, around the world there were/are plenty of white slaves.

Katie59

Another here that did not know about the KKK parading black women naked through the streets, although I don’t doubt it happened. A throwback to slavery days when women were paraded naked at slave auctions wether they were black or white, around the world there were/are plenty of white slaves.

There may have been white slaves Katie59 but I doubt if you can identify one country whose prosperity was built on that, whereas there are numerous countries- the UK and US amongst them-whose whole economy was built on black slavery, and a lot of rich people (the RF amongst them) who made their money from black slavery.

I didn’t know about it either.
FFS leave out the witch hunts on here MaizieD and Volver about this.
Not always time to read every post on a thread y’know.

The Sun will be happy to have everybody talking about Clarkson I guess.Sells more papers.
He goes off on disgusting rants now and then, as to the should he be allowed to question, yes it’s a free country.We are free to
Pour scorn on him publicly too.

Donald Trump’s father was a member of the KKK so I have read.

I think Clarkson has shown himself up for what he is. I can’t find the link with the KKK but a horrible thing to say regardless. The KKK had 3 existences since the first one was formed after the Civil War. As time went on they were also anti Jew, anti catholic, anti adulterous white women, anti immigrants as well as anti black and anyone who spoke up for them. There were horrific incidents of violence far worse than that cited.

If you are really interested take a look at Ku-Klux-Klan-A- History of Racism pdf on www.spicentre.org It’s 60 pages long so make sure you have time.

I was not overly surprised that he wrote it, bit if drunken one upmanship over Piers Morgan probably, but what did surprise me was that a British newspaper, albeit the execrable Sun, actually published it

Jeremy Clarkson has achieved his objective, he is being talked about on all media outlets.

I am appalled that Jeremy Clarkson said this and even more appalled that a national Newspaper thought it appropriate to print.

(As for Jeremy Clarkson’s Farm I am the only one in my family that didn’t watch it in lockdown, the overall opinion is that it was very good)

I suppose the kindest way of looking at Clarkson's rant would be to suggest that senile dementia is setting in in some or other form.

That doesn't excuse the editor of the SUN who should quietly have disposed of the article in his wastepaper basket.

Oreo

I didn’t know about it either.
FFS leave out the witch hunts on here MaizieD and Volver about this.
Not always time to read every post on a thread y’know.

The Sun will be happy to have everybody talking about Clarkson I guess.Sells more papers.
He goes off on disgusting rants now and then, as to the should he be allowed to question, yes it’s a free country.We are free to
Pour scorn on him publicly too.

If I haven't read every single post in a thread, but somebody points out that one of the posts I haven't read tells me something I didn't know, then I don't make a point of explaining ad nauseam that I didn't know, how could I be expected to know, nobody told me etc.

Just saying.

Except I had read the post in question, V. Just didn't understand it in the expected way. And I still claim it wasn't telling me anything. It was an oblique reference.

Which I also nauseatingly said way back. Do pay attention.

Blossoming, thank you for your post, it seems as if there is no safe space for Black Women around the British Royal family.

I have never liked him and do not understand why he is allowed on the television to peddle his arrogant encouragement to young men to drive selfishly and badly and he just shows even more what an appalling person he is. Ignore him and dont let him use the publicity to carry on in the same way. Ignoring him totally will upset him far more.

There doesn’t need to be any reference to the KKK for Clarkson’s rant to be offensive, in its own right. The response from my friend Nimco Ali puts it succinctly.

www.theguardian.com/media/2022/dec/18/jeremy-clarkson-condemned-meghan-column-the-sun

The Radio DJ and TV host Edith Bowman wrote on Twitter: “How is someone able to print such abusive comments in an actual newspaper?”

Ironically, it has been reproduced in The Guardian (and roundly condemned).

Allsorts

I don't think most people will worry about it. Never read the Sun.

It's reported in other newspapers online, and allover social media.

You need to read what he has said, if you haven't. People read this stuff and it gives a certain section of society carte blanche to act on it.

Megan has been subjected to years of racism, vitriol, and abuse, started by the main stream media.

If you don't like someone that you haven't met then move on and don't read or bother about them, as you would a person on earthland.

This sort, of things helps whip up to the msyogonists and the foul people to continue it on in the general public.

Scaring women, the right wing media and the women being afraid for their lives and their children

@blossoming
It's like the rantings of an immature 14 year old boy. Yet, he's a grown man. Absolutely pathetic.

We have a whole raft of Health and Safety rules/laws to protect people who may not know any better from hurting themselves or others. Some of those rules are for things that most of us think, "Why on earth do they need to legislate about that, surely it's obvious!" But we accept that some people may be stupid/ignorant or able to comprehend enough the danger. Surely, what we read in the papers should be akin to that. Most of us know that the sort of rhetoric that Clarkson spouts is offensive nonsense which shouldn't be given air space. However, there are a number of people who live and breathe what their idols think and strangely enough, he has those sort of fans. They will take it on board and believe it is ok to speak and act in this way. Surely we should be protecting them from hate speak as well as the victims? No rubbish about censorship. You can make your point about your dislike of somebody and what they represent without being vile, misogynistic, racist and/or revolting.

it was a scene from games of thrones apparently..

the Sun should never have allowed clarksons rant to go to press.