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MawtheMerrier Fri 20-Jan-23 09:25:23

Why does being good at and well known for one thing qualify so-called “celebrities” for a range of entertainment on TV?
Looking at what’s on TV tonight I see the following

Would I Lie to You? With panellists Shirley Ballas, Steven Bartlett, Josie Gibson and Chris McCausland (S)
8.30
Amanda & Alan's Italian Job Amanda Holden and Alan Carr set about renovating the bathrooms (AD) (S)
So Shirley Ballas is a dancer and “judge” on Strictly. Why should that get her a place on a panel show? (It’s all scripted anyway I imagine. )
Amanda Holden is a TV presenter. “media personality” , occasional actress, and Alan Carr is a rather camp comedian .
What is the attraction in watching them hamming up “renovating” a bathroom in Italy?
Then there are the endless travel progs with the likes of Susan Calman, Sue Perkins, Joe Lycett etc
At least Monty Don knows something about gardens
Monty Don's Adriatic Gardens The presenter visits the city of Trieste (AD) (R)

Love them or loathe them, I still find myself mostly asking “Why” ?

volver Fri 20-Jan-23 09:27:46

Why do celebrities appear on TV shows designed for celebrities to appear on?

Ah, its one of the mysteries of the ages...

MawtheMerrier Fri 20-Jan-23 09:29:21

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MawtheMerrier Fri 20-Jan-23 09:30:29

OK that was my starter for 10.
Now
Why have programmes (just) designed for celebrities to appear on?

volver Fri 20-Jan-23 09:33:19

Because they are comedies, not really panel shows? And nobody want to watch you and me telling lies on TV?

I've not seen the "doing up a bathroom one" so I'll reserve judgement 😜

Redhead56 Fri 20-Jan-23 09:39:34

I totally agree and don’t watch programmes with so called celebrities in them. I don’t mind the shows such as Celebrity Masterchef or Children in need as it’s for a good cause. House renovation travel programmes and gardening programmes should be left for the professionals to present.

Fairislecable Fri 20-Jan-23 09:42:09

I thought it was part of an ongoing campaign by the Beeb to send us anti-slebs to seek out other forms of entertainment.

I agree there are SO many of these and they are awful.

EXCEPT Richard E Grant, Write around the World, he was so interesting and informative.

Mollygo Fri 20-Jan-23 09:43:15

I know what you mean Maw. Sometimes I haven’t even heard of the ‘celebrities’.
Undoubtedly they have more viewer-pulling power than a panel filled with parents-at-the-school-gate, or folk-at-the-pub or even Gransnetters.
I’d like to be a ‘celebrity’ on a travel programme, but my 5-7 year old fans wouldn’t be interested.

volver Fri 20-Jan-23 09:43:52

They're aren't "so-called" celebrities. They are actual real celebrities. Not everyone has to like these celebrities, but that doesn't stop them being celebrities.

PoppyFlower Fri 20-Jan-23 09:44:36

I agree! Celebrity does this, does that, goes here or there... Travel shows, for example, we're usually hosted by those specialising in that genre - Alan Wicker, Clive James, Judith Chalmers etc.
I miss straight comedy shows too. We do have them but there's more than likely a serious edge, like Motherland.
There some celebrity shows I like, like QI and also the Marigold Hotel travel shows.
Winge over!

Riverwalk Fri 20-Jan-23 09:45:22

Never mind celebrities what gets up my goat is failed politicians being given airtime.

My biggest bugbear is Portillo landing the plum Railways gig - I love railway travel programmes and have to watch it through gritted teeth as can't stand him!

Georgesgran Fri 20-Jan-23 09:48:42

I suppose they all have to earn a crust, but some seem so desperate, they’d go to the opening of an envelope! Usually I avoid this type of offering too.

volver Fri 20-Jan-23 09:49:39

Clive James wasn't a travel expert.

He was, whisper it, a celebrity!!!

So let's reword this as "why are there people on TV that I don't like?"

Joseanne Fri 20-Jan-23 09:49:56

Maybe it's to encourage very average people to become celebs so the TV channels can make yet more programmes about celebs appearing on celeb programmes. They wouldn't want to run it all dry. Ask children at school what they want to be later on and you would be surprised.

The Holden/ Carr one is weird .

Kate1949 Fri 20-Jan-23 09:50:37

I think of it as a sort of a club - you come on our show and we'll come on yours. It's usually the same celebrities on most things. They are usually promoting a book or something, especially in shows like Graham Norton.

Parsley3 Fri 20-Jan-23 09:53:08

I usually avoid the endless round of celebrity travel programmes (but sometimes make an exception for Susan Calman). However, I don't see the purpose in rolling out actors, chefs and comedians to present quiz shows. They are not all good at it.

henetha Fri 20-Jan-23 10:01:51

Celebrities? Non-celebrities? I don't ask why any more. I just relax and enjoy the programmes I like and avoid those I don't.

Jaxjacky Fri 20-Jan-23 10:02:24

Well some people must be watching them or they wouldn’t be on, WILTY, gets over 3m viewers.
I believe it’s called entertainment.

Yammy Fri 20-Jan-23 10:12:29

MawtheMerrier

OK that was my starter for 10.
Now
Why have programmes (just) designed for celebrities to appear on?

I think you are asking a very interesting question Maw.
It probably depends on who you consider a celebrity, age seems to play a part in this and perhaps we get more cynical as we get older and our idea of who is a celebration change.
What would some of these people do if they were not invited onto these shows they obviously do not have other work at the moment. I'm not feeling sorry for them just asking the question. Young people consider people celebrities who the older generation would not. We all turn them into celebrates when we follow what they do
I'm agreeing with you not disagree. Even Question Time falls foul to this at times when the panel is chosen.

annsixty Fri 20-Jan-23 10:26:13

What makes a talentless person into a celebrity?
That has baffled me for a long time.
One of my pet “wonder about” is Stacy Solomon, she of the perpetual wide mouthed grin.
I have never seen her apart from in the Manchester Evening News which is obsessed with unknown “celebrities “.

Curtaintwitcher Fri 20-Jan-23 10:30:43

I think the problem lies in the difference between entertainers and those whose profession brings them into the public eye. Personally, I think it's inappropriate for newsreaders and politicians to be classed as celebs.

JenniferEccles Fri 20-Jan-23 10:37:11

I do agree with your point about the ubiquitous ‘celebrities’ but I think the exception is the ex politician Michael Portillo and his world- wide train travels.
He’s informative without making the programme all about him, unlike the self-centred celebrities.

Theexwife Fri 20-Jan-23 10:39:52

You don't need to have a talent to be a celebrity, it just means that you are well-known.

Being well-known does not mean it has to be by just one group of people, nobody can watch and listen to everything that is broadcast. Television companies want to attract as many watchers as possible so will celebrities from many different areas.

Germanshepherdsmum Fri 20-Jan-23 10:41:06

The programme schedules are full of this sort of inane rubbish. The ‘off’ switch is much used here.

CallmeEsme Fri 20-Jan-23 10:47:22

Well I totally agree with Maw. I avoid this kind of show.
How does being a tennis coach and mother to a tennis star make you a celebrity. In my book it doesn’t. She appears to be as boring and as stiff as a plank of wood.
Makes you wonder what’s happened to the real talent these days.