'Queen Camilla'?

Diana, who hated the countryside, put on wellies and walks across a ploughed field to talk to Charles.

Diana , who had no problem with the press following her to work everyday when her relationship with Charles was made
public.

Shy Di !

I have always been a royalist but I am having a definite rethink.

They'll be gutted when they find out!

Who cares? It's high time we got rid of the lot of them In a country where people are struggling to pay their bills and put food on the table, we give millions of taxpayers money to these grasping multi-billionaires. I fail to see a good reason why this should be so.

I was walking round a large shopping centre in France today and there were posters up to celebrate the coronation, like in bookshops and in travel agents. The titles were very much, Their majesties^, Their crowning^, King and Queen. It seems they come as a package. I think that if the rest of the world is referring to them as such, (though of course the rest of the world might not understand the background), then most people in the UK will get used to using those titles pretty quickly.

I'm with you on this. They all made mistakes, either forced on them or through ignorance. So why the b1tchy comments by some? Charles has stayed with Camilla, she's taken care of him...she's quietly doing "the job." Let's judge them by future performance. As for "Queen"....the title goes with the job.

#Poppsbaggie. Socialist twaddle. We haven't GIVEN billions to greedy, grasping multimillionaires. They may well have evaded paying tax through loopholes. Different matter.
Better an apolitical figure head than a political appointee though personally I'm ambivalent about the monarchy.

Technically Queen Camilia is queen consort, as she is married to the king, not the sovereign herself.

The only queens in British history to rule are in Scotland Mary Stewart, better known as Mary, Queen of Scots, to distinguish her from her older second or third cousin Mary Tudor of England, the same Mary Tudor, her half-sister, Elizabeth, another Mary Stewart, who shared the throne with her husband William of Orange, Queen Anne, Queen Victoria and Queen Elizabeth II.

All of the other women in British history accorded the title of queen were married to kings and therefore if we want to be fussy, queen consorts, but all of them were referred to both by the general public, diplomats, British and foreign royality and newspapers as Queen followed by their given name, or rather the one of the string most of them had that they chose to use.

To me it seems petty in the extreme to insist on referring to Queen Camilla as the Queen consort.

When the late Queen said Camilla should be the queen consort, I hope and trust she meant she should be accorded the rightful title (Queen) generally used of the spouse of a King and not still be referred to as the Duchess of Cornwall.

Not my Queen nor my King. The monarchy was finished for me when the Queen died.

I was speaking to the republican campaign team a few weeks ago. There support no's have shot up since The Queen passed.

As for Camilla. Don't get me started and Charles is no better.

The proven appalling treatment of H & M says it all for me.

If you are anti them, then you're just fallen for media trash and nonsense which comes from the Palace to deflect from C, C and W & K

I'm not going into reams on it however the palace treatment of H & M is appalling. Though I expect alot of you won't agree. There is a far bigger support of H & M in the U.K and world wide than you think

Nicegranny

I cannot forgive her or forget that Camilla was Princess Diana’s tormentor.
She’s no queen, she’s just the mistress that got very lucky.

What a truly horrible thing to say.

Bear in mind that no woman becomes anyone's mistress unless some man is willing to either commit adultery or fornication!

As for calling her Princess Diana's tormentor - re-read what I wrote about mistresses, please.

Everyone makes mistakes, but unlike Charles, Camilla and Diana, most of us make ours outside the glare of publicity. Surely it is time to give the matter of the present King's unfortunate first marriage a rest. He like many another man chose the wrong wife, but if the world and his wife had not been so busy sticking their noses into that marriage, the couple might just have been able to adjust better to each other and sort out their differences.

Anniebach

Diana’s treatment of other women is acceptable?

... good point!

Tattooedfidelma

I’m stunned at how nasty this thread has got. This is why I rarely take part. I’m not a fan of the royals but Charles and Camilla seem like nice people who are doing their best. I know many people who have affairs and remarry after divorce and they aren’t condemned for years afterwards.

It’s always nasty when it’s about the RF. whether it’s V3’s tart or trollop nastiness or their homes, or their appearance or whatever. The RF/ republic argument rattles on, and so it should, but the personal nastiness about them is something else.

Oh for heavens sakes, she is the wife of the king, the wife of the king is a queen end of story.

If you are anti H & M, then you're just fallen for media trash and nonsense which comes from the Palace to deflect from C, C and W & K.
I disagree. I think most people I know are far too discerning to fall for that one. They judge from what they hear from Harry himself. But that is another issue, not really this thread.
Personally I'm not into all this "support" or "don't support" stuff. I like, or I don't like, what I see.

Mollygo

Tattooedfidelma

I’m stunned at how nasty this thread has got. This is why I rarely take part. I’m not a fan of the royals but Charles and Camilla seem like nice people who are doing their best. I know many people who have affairs and remarry after divorce and they aren’t condemned for years afterwards.

It’s always nasty when it’s about the RF. whether it’s V3’s tart or trollop nastiness or their homes, or their appearance or whatever. The RF/ republic argument rattles on, and so it should, but the personal nastiness about them is something else.

My nastiness?

I think you'll find that I didn't call her either of those names, other people did.

False accusation, Mollygo

Joseanne

^If you are anti H & M, then you're just fallen for media trash and nonsense which comes from the Palace to deflect from C, C and W & K.^
I disagree. I think most people I know are far too discerning to fall for that one. They judge from what they hear from Harry himself. But that is another issue, not really this thread.
Personally I'm not into all this "support" or "don't support" stuff. I like, or I don't like, what I see.

I agree.
We listen to Harry and make a judgement on what he says.

What about Catherine when it comes to her turn?

Will we be happy to call her ‘Queen Catherine’, or has she got to be ‘Queen Consort’ also?

Don’t think it will be ‘Queen Kate’, even if that is how the media will describe her.

👑

Why CG? Why not ‘Queen Kate’?

(I agree about the vitriol. It seems to get worse )

Matilda, daughter and only surviving heir of Henry 1st, could be counted in amongst the sovereign Queens. Although her cousin Stephen immediately had himself crowned upon Henry's death, certain nobles did support Matilda and England descended into civil war. This finally ended with Stephens victory ( both his sons were dead) with the proviso that upon his death, Matilda's son became King Henry 11nd,the first Plantagenant king. Jane Grey equally could be included. However neither of these two were crowned,but there again,neither was Edward Vth or Edward V111th, and both of these certainly count as monarchs.

Mollygo

When I first got married, by convention, I was supposed to be known as Mrs Molly Go, because my MIL was the real Mrs Go.
My MIL told me I was Mrs Go as soon as I married her son, and not to be silly!

Surely by those conventions when you married Son you became Mrs Son Go? And only became Mrs Molly Go if you were divorced or Son died?

Conventions, I might add, that we are well rid of.

Anniebach

Diana pushed Raine down the stairs

No “threw” Raine down the stairs!

Pushed Raine, threw herself

I agree, she I just a mistress that usurped a wife.

It seems that many people need the 'royals' to make their world feel safe and I find it amazing that people a) have such short memories and b) overlook behaviour from these people that they would find totally unacceptable in any other circumstance.

Personally I think they should all be pensioned off and given a (one) house to live in and an annuity.

Like NiceGranny I remember the conversations regarding Camillas tampon. Not a fan of any of them.

Overlook what behaviour? A mistress becomes a wife? It happens all the time these days so hardly a hanging offense and actually none of our business. As for an annuity! I think you'll find the RF have plenty of their own wealth and houses to not to rely on handouts.

Why do people constantly refer back to a private conversation between two lovers that took place over 20 years ago, and use that private conversation to judge them by. Its quite ridiculous and again none of our business. Have these same judgmental people never had intimate conversations that they themselves would not wish for others to hear? The people who are disgraceful are the hackers who got into this conversation and sold it to the gutter press.