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Aveline Sat 20-May-23 12:51:13

Just wondering about this. A friend is stressing as people have not let her know whether or not they plan to attend her husband's funeral. I know she is going through a ghastly time and seems to be fixating on this a little. Obviously, there are catering requirements to consider. I've never been aware of having to let people know you're going to attend. Maybe that's just me though. Is this a new thing?

saltnshake Sat 20-May-23 18:37:31

The reason you are are asked to RSVP is that many wakes are now held at hotels or pubs. These establishments charge a set price per head. My friend was asked to pay a large deposit beforehand. So I feel it is reasonable to try to have an idea of the number to cater for.

Cabbie21 Sat 20-May-23 19:42:01

It is surely impossible to know how many local people will turn up, but should be ok to get numbers of those coming from a distance. The total could be 28 or 82. The last funeral I went to pre-lockdown attracted about 200. Not everyone went back to the hotel for the wake. I don’t see why a cup of tea and piece of cake at 3pm should need exact numbers for a price per head from a caterer. It depends what is being provided. People should definitely let you know if they are turning up expecting a full meal.

Humbertbear Sat 20-May-23 23:12:40

After the last funeral we attended, the wake was held in a hotel so the widower obviously needed numbers for the catering. I think everyone accepts that plans might change at the last minute.

biglouis Sun 21-May-23 00:09:02

When I visited my nephew after his stroke he was sitting in the day room talking with a man I did not know. I assumed it was a "friend of a friend". Shortly after I arrived he excused himself and then began a conversation with another patient.

Later nephew told me that the man was someone who just liked visiting random people in hospitals and chatting to them. He had also told nephew that he scanned the local paper for any funerals or weddings nearby he could attend. It seemed to be his "hobby" and possibly he was lonely himself. Of course if you show up at a funeral or wedding its easy to pass muster as so many people do not know one another.

What a curious hobby.

paddyann54 Sun 21-May-23 00:28:55

cabbie funerals in my neck of the woods,the West of Scotland are sit down meals usually steak pie or chicken for choice with soup before and tea and cakes after .They've long been held in Hotels and restaurants in fact I've never known one that wasn't .
My Dads funeral had in excess of 100 ,many work colleagues and the hotel had no problem catering for them all .
If you ask any random stranger what is funeral food it'll be steak pie in the co op halls or a local hotel .

absent Sun 21-May-23 06:14:13

Whenever I have had to arrange a funeral I have always just telephoned members of the family and friends of the deceased with news of the death and the date of the funeral. They have almost always told me immediately whether they will able to come.

Aveline Sun 21-May-23 06:19:57

Ham sandwiches, sausage rolls and fruit cake seem to be the traditional post funeral fare round here in my experience. Tea and coffee plus sherry or whisky. At my Dad's we had champagne as it was what he would have wanted. No RSVPs then but somehow it all worked out fine.

Hetty58 Sun 21-May-23 07:55:08

Aveline, funeral services are public events (unless specified as private) so the date/time is communicated - and it's only the wake that needs an invitation.

That's usually for close friends and family only - so it should be fairly straightforward to estimate numbers. I think your friend is stressing because she's unaware of the usual conventions.

Several hundred people came to my husband's funeral - many work colleagues, friends from snooker and golf, neighbours, hospital staff and cousins - many I had never met.

Still, the 'after party' (as he'd called it, when planning the event) was for about 30, and that was quite enough. We had a buffet, so knowing the numbers wasn't vital.

Aveline Sun 21-May-23 08:41:15

Hetty58. I think her stressing about potential attenders was all mixed in with her general distress after a very difficult last few months with her DH. She's trying to take control of everything and that's just not always possible. She's keen that her DHs life is well celebrated which is lovely. She's organised every aspect of the funeral that she can but can't be sure of exact numbers. The post funeral event is not very close to the crematorium which is another complication. I'm encouraging her to try to relax and focus on her DH and know that she's done absolutely everything she possibly can to make sure that all goes well.

SachaMac Sun 21-May-23 10:17:37

I can understand where your friend is coming from. I wanted everything to be just perfect for my DH, it is after all the last thing you can do for them. Even the weather which we had no control over was on our side.
I think you are running on Adrenalin and are in a kind of surreal daze to a certain extent then when it’s over you are ready to collapse. I was unsure about numbers for the buffet but all turned out well and there seemed to be plenty of it. I just couldn’t eat a thing on the day but everyone else tucked in and said how much they’d enjoyed it as we went for all the traditional buffet food that my husband loved.
It is an awful thing to go through, your friend has my sympathy, hope all goes well.

1summer Sun 21-May-23 10:24:13

My husband died recently and I hadn’t a clue how many would come to the funeral. I counted up people I knew would definitely be coming and added about 20 people, so catered for 65. I panicked a bit at the funeral as I was told we had at least 150 people.
But then thought all these people have come to pay respects and celebrate the life of my husband and not to be fed. About 100 people came to venue and we had plenty of buffet, people didn’t seem to eat a lot.

Callistemon21 Sun 21-May-23 11:34:58

Aveline, funeral services are public events (unless specified as private) so the date/time is communicated - and it's only the wake that needs an invitation.

That's usually for close friends and family only - so it should be fairly straightforward to estimate numbers. I think your friend is stressing because she's unaware of the usual conventions.

At most funeral services we have attended (and there have been so many recently) there has usually been an invitation to the wake on the back of the order of service, so open to all who attend, not just close friends and family.

Aveline Sun 21-May-23 11:49:13

That's my experience too Callistemon

NotSpaghetti Sun 21-May-23 11:52:58

I held both my parents funeral receptions in hotels and guessed how many would come.

I have never heard of (let alone received or sent) an invite.

I catered for loads of people both times but as it was a hotel I was assured they would simply add to the buffet if it was running a bit low or if more people came.

Both funerals were midweek. Both were roughly mid-day.

We ran out of the very fanciest cakes at Dad's funeral as there were so many people but they brought out the teabreads, sponges and more scones etc. Plenty of sandwiches which just appeared - and as it was a hotel, plenty of tea/coffee.

Everyone was offered a drink from the bar (several sherries were drunk!).

The catering was the easy bit to be honest. It would have been horrible doing it myself with 5 young children and a one still a baby.

I was lucky that I didn't have to. If finances had been tight I would have been pleased to know numbers.

dumdum Mon 22-May-23 12:13:24

It’s useful to know for catering purposes at The Wake. If coming to service etc. Doesn’t matter.

Aveline Mon 22-May-23 13:13:24

I know.

marionk Mon 22-May-23 13:15:43

I was told that people were coming to pay their respects to my late husband, not to be fed and if there were more people that food to go round then tough. TBH on the day there is little emotion left to care if people are fed or not

JaneJudge Mon 22-May-23 13:16:00

I think she is most probably focussing on this as a distraction from her grief

Magrithea Mon 22-May-23 13:37:56

It's the one life event that you don't ask people to! I'm sure the caterers are used to it, I helped provide catering for one a few years ago (WI member and our WI were asked to provide the tea) - the family thought about 60 would turn up but in the event it was nearly double!!! We still had enough food though

Riggie Mon 22-May-23 13:49:33

I've not heard this before both as someone organising a funeral or an attendee. Tbh I only go to the "afterwards" if it's someone close anyway. I dont expect a big spread - as long as I get a cuppa I'm happy (and most these days are in a pub so I'd expect to buy my drink at the bar).

Oreo Mon 22-May-23 14:08:26

saltnshake

The reason you are are asked to RSVP is that many wakes are now held at hotels or pubs. These establishments charge a set price per head. My friend was asked to pay a large deposit beforehand. So I feel it is reasonable to try to have an idea of the number to cater for.

I think it’s reasonable too, when meals are going to be produced, or even a buffet really as they are both expensive unless doing the catering yourself.

11unicorn Mon 22-May-23 14:32:24

In Germany people often phone to give condolences and ask when the funeral is. They then tell you if they are able to attend or not.
Family always let you know if they are coming or not.
That way you have a rough figure of how many you may need to cater for.

We recently lost my Mum and held the wake at a small restaurant/pub, they were very good and said they could quickly make more sandwiches if needed.
There were more people we initially thought but enough food for everyone.

Gundy Mon 22-May-23 15:13:49

This seems to be a fairly new thing even here across the pond. There’s a trend that a country club or venue luncheon/reception is planned at a later date than when it was more customary after the actual death - which was 3-5 days post and also included a fellowship gathering for attendees hosted and cooked by church friends - gratis.

I believe it started when the pandemic was in full swing. Have the private family service and burial (cremation) right away but have the gathering of friends, relatives, co-workers etc a month or so later. People are sending invitations now but NOT necessarily asking for RSVP’s - which is probably a good thing. Those that need to be there will show up.

Planners need to only have liquid refreshment and a few appetizers - nothing to obsess over.

I’m personally leaning towards a celebration following my memorial service (cremation) for anyone that shows up - open bar, food, dessert offerings which will be paid in full by my family who will be reimbursed out of my paltry little estate.
Have FUN! 🎉
USA Gundy

Aveline Mon 22-May-23 15:38:03

Some funerals can be fun if the person has had a long life well lived but others can be very sad occasions indeed
I'd prefer mine to be as simple and straightforward as possible so I don't inconvenience my family.

4allweknow Mon 22-May-23 16:53:59

Dh died last year. Most interest people did contact to say they would lile to arrend the service and whether or not they would attend the reception. In the intimation I did state those wishing to atrend should contact family for funeral details. Location, time etc not made public as due to size of service venue I had to keep a check on numbers. Worked well.