Naked pair enjoy meal in non-naturalist pub.

Hygiene concerns with it. Do they put a cloth down before they sit? Doesn't bear thinking about if not.

Probably I'd just stare in surprise. Think though that if they hadn't brought something to sit on then I would have complained to the manager, unhygienic!

Think of the potential complications of getting preferred pronouns right if you were doing the serving.

Galaxy

My feelings are more important than anyone else's.
Other peoples boundaries arent important. When people say no I get upset.
Just translating the article

... and, "I will suggest that there are far-more-important-things-in-the-world than what a person wears" because it signals my virtuous understanding of the 'more-important-things' and is a time-worn method of deflection. My interpretation...

No one has to justify why they might not be comfortable with strangers exhibiting their genitals and bums in a public dining area. We are afforded the right to choose - as naturists are afforded the right to have designated environments in which they can relax and walk around naked.

I think they are couple of self-indulgent individuals who are too thick-skinned and self-obsessed to consider anything other than what they want and that they are imposing their values on others who don't feel the same as them.

I'm neither shocked nor outraged, just annoyed at yet another example of selfish idiots who can't or more likely, won't, consider other people because they're too full of their own p*ss and importance. That's something my mother used to say, but I've no idea where she got it from and neither had she.

I would be far more concerned about the hygiene aspect than anything else. This being said, I would not appreciate suddenly coming across two naked strangers. I sometimes have nightmares (l think it's quite a common dream) about realising l am naked among people l know who are fully dressed. There is nothing wrong with nudity if you go in for this sort of thing providing it is in a designated area away from the unsuspecting general public. I think the human body looks much better with clothes on, personally.

I'd probably snigger in a very childish way

Then I'd continue with my meal as if they weren't there

welbeck

disgustingly unhygienic.
i would leave immediately.

I did wonder whether the pub would sanitise the seats afterwards. Bare bums etc.

The hygiene aspect wouldn't bother me, as I am always clothed, so if I sat down after them there would be no transference of anything unpleasant.

I wouldn't be comfortable with it, but I'm not sure why. I wouldn't be concerned about children seeing (any more than I would be about other adults, that is), as they are just bodies, but something doesn't sit right. I wonder if it's that I am naturally private, so don't stare at people and don't like people staring at me (eg if I see someone famous I would pretend not to notice, as they have a right to a private life), yet it would be hard not to keep looking at them - a bit like when you walk past a house with the lights on in a room right on the street. I'm not sure if that's my objection, but I don't think it should be encouraged.

I cannot for the life of me think how they were allowed in the pub/restaurant in the first place. I thought it was against the law, but maybe it isn’t?! I also think the human body looks much better in clothing and it’s not hygienic to sit on seats with no clothes on. I think the couple must be attention seekers/go in for shock tactics. If they want to be naturists, do so in designated places or at home etc not in a public place. I would be a bit nudge nudge wink wink about seeing them dining naked, but deep down I would not approve. Even in these enlightened times, it’s just not on to go around naked in a public place.

I think naturists usually bring a clean towel or cushion to sit on. That's no worse than anyone else sitting in their clothes. People used to look askance, back in the 70s when 'hippies' had bare feet but I'm sure barefoot fans would be fairly careful where they walked and the soles of their feet would be no dirtier than the soles of other people's shoes.

However, I think my reaction would probably have been an embarrassed snigger...

Well as the naked human body is the most laughable thing on earth …..I’d laugh!! And watch the shrinkage!!

Ok so what if they were wearing teeny tiny gstrings ? Would that have been ok? Is it just the genitalia that freaks everyone out? I mean its just bits of dangling skin.

Think I would rather have naked diners than badly behaved children running around and screaming

Kartush

Ok so what if they were wearing teeny tiny gstrings ? Would that have been ok? Is it just the genitalia that freaks everyone out? I mean its just bits of dangling skin.

No, I would still find that disconcerting. As I said, though, I'm not sure why I wouldn't like it. It's not about the bodies themselves, but about their being out of place, I suppose.

It's that men who flask tend to be dangerous and we shouldnt minimise it.

Men who flash.
Men who flask as far as I know arent especially risky.

Galaxy

It's that men who flask tend to be dangerous and we shouldnt minimise it.

Yes, that probably has a lot to do with it. I was thinking about whether the fact that a woman was with him made a difference, and it probably would, as that would 'normalise' things somehow. Not that it's a normal situation - maybe 'neutralise' is a better word. A man on his own would seem more dodgy.

Kartush

Ok so what if they were wearing teeny tiny gstrings ? Would that have been ok? Is it just the genitalia that freaks everyone out? I mean its just bits of dangling skin.

If they were wearing "teeny tiny g-strings", they wouldn't be nudists / naturists, and the whole dynamic would change.

And I don't think anyone is actually "freaked out", that's your spin on it.

Wasn't there a naked walker going all over Britain and he was arrested on occasion. Why are the streakers quickly covered up when they run on eg a football pitch, can understand why they are escorted off as interrupting play. Just hope tge servibg staff didn't spill anything on the nudists, can you imagine the furore if coffee had gone astray.

Doodledog

Galaxy

It's that men who flask tend to be dangerous and we shouldnt minimise it.

Yes, that probably has a lot to do with it. I was thinking about whether the fact that a woman was with him made a difference, and it probably would, as that would 'normalise' things somehow. Not that it's a normal situation - maybe 'neutralise' is a better word. A man on his own would seem more dodgy.

I expect the general public is more accepting of a couple than they would be if it were just him. Which is probably why they go together and why their own spouses don't mind..

Together, they 'legitimise' the nudity.

Though not illegal, walking naked into a pub must have been an attempt by this couple to embarrass and discomfort other diners. Show offs.

On the other hand we once came across the then famous naked hiker on the fells in the Lake District. It didn’t bother me at all, and he wasn’t out to show off or approach other people, just enjoying the fresh air. I felt quite envious of him in that situation.

Yes a woman with him does neutralise it. It must be hard on men who have no ill intentions to always be considered a risk.

It's the behaviour that makes him a risk. Bob in his jeans and drinking a pint may of course also be a risk but he is not displaying behaviours which put him straight into the risky category.

Re hygiene..

I sometimes wonder if anyone reads the links (and info) that other people post?

The pub provided them with bin-bags to sit on, apparently, so with or without towels and irrespective of the way-up of those towels the hygiene issue is largely dealt with I feel.