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kittylester Sun 18-Jun-23 16:06:46

Buying, either on line or in person,seems so much more complicated nowadays.

In shops, I quite often have to put my card in the machine rather than just tapping. And, I also have to put a verification code in when buying on line which i never did previously - mostly my JL card on line.

Or is the bank trying to tell me not to spend so much?

Germanshepherdsmum Sun 18-Jun-23 16:11:46

You have to enter your verification code online to protect against fraud. I very often have to use the pin sentry machine for online purchases too, even for small amounts - a right faff but it all helps the fight against fraud.

fancythat Sun 18-Jun-23 16:17:11

I tend to shop in batches so to speak.
So I wont spend for days, and then may go out and spend several times in one day.
It does seem that after I have used a card 3 times, on the 4th, I have to use a pin number.

Or that could just be me. Or the card.

Apart from one place, I do not shop online. Dont like it. If I really want something, I ask someone else to do it for me and repay them.

GrannyGravy13 Sun 18-Jun-23 16:34:33

GSM is correct the verification code is anti fraud prevention.

If you use John Lewis, or any other retailer frequently you can add them to your list and you will no longer have to do the verification code thing.

The chip & pin thing is random fraud prevention by the chip and pin provider, not against you personally.

kittylester Sun 18-Jun-23 16:45:11

Where is my list gg?

It always seems to happen to me at the butcher's!!

M0nica Sun 18-Jun-23 16:52:35

Verification was introduced about a year ago. I never used to need to verify, and I realised it was happening because my card issuers contacted me wanting my mobile phone number so that they could send it to me.

Jaxjacky Sun 18-Jun-23 16:57:12

Yes MOnica I often get a verification code sent to my phone, or a ‘please authorise at your bank’ done online through my banking app.

GrannyGravy13 Sun 18-Jun-23 17:00:52

kittylester

Where is my list gg?

It always seems to happen to me at the butcher's!!

When your bank sends you the verification code underneath it should say do you want this supplier to be added to your favourites /preferential list and a little box to click.

Hetty58 Sun 18-Jun-23 17:04:41

I find online shopping a whole lot easier than trekking around the shops. I make much better choices with a clear head, also avoid temptation from the many promotions for stuff I really don't need.

I use Paypal whenever I can, have my mobile nearby and I've memorised all my card details. So, I can just sit here with a nice coffee and get it all done in no time.

SueDonim Sun 18-Jun-23 17:06:11

Thanks for that tip, GG13. I’ve never noticed that box but will look for it.

The verification code system is a nightmare if you live in an area with poor mobile signal because it often doesn’t come through. I remember trying and failing to buy something when I didn’t get any of the codes. Next time I drove into town my phone was ping-ping-pinging with all the failed messages coming in. 🙄

Germanshepherdsmum Sun 18-Jun-23 18:04:26

We have no mobile reception Sue, hence the use of the Barclays pin sentry machine. Being texted a code is completely impossible here unless I stand at the top of the garden, and by the time I get back to the computer the code’s expired!

kittylester Sun 18-Jun-23 18:28:21

Thanks gg. I hadn't spotted it either.

We have no phone signal GSM but we receive mobile calls via the Internet which works well. Can't remember how we did it but it is a game changer

SueDonim Sun 18-Jun-23 18:54:48

Luckily we’ve moved to an area with decent signal so it’s not a problem any more, GSM but that scenario sounds familiar. What a scutter!

Connecting to the Internet made no difference, the messages still didn’t get through until the phone was past the dairy farm about a mile away. grin

Floradora9 Sun 18-Jun-23 22:13:02

Banks ask that you have to put your card in the machine with a pin every now and then , banks choose the times , to make sure it is you using it . It is for your own security as contacless is used so much now .

M0nica Sun 18-Jun-23 22:28:44

Putting in pin numbers in machines in shops has never bothered me - and is easily done. Verification codes can be a hassle.

For many years we couldn't get mobile reception at home even though we live in a village in the centre of an area of high tech research, surrounded by research centres. It can still be a bit iffy.

My problem is verification numbers that do not come through. I have just had to open a new ebay account and abandon a nearly 20 year ebay 100% reputation because despite whatever phone they sent my verification code to, it wasn't my mobile. I spent months trying to sort this out ( I am one of many). The response was always to tell me to go into my account to check my number, but to do that I had first to enter a verification code, which i couldn't receive. In the end I gave up and started again.

Doodledog Sun 18-Jun-23 23:11:54

I was booking train tickets online recently, and the payment wouldn't go through. I tried Paypal, Apple Pay and putting the card number in, but to no avail. As that was three attempts by card got blocked and it took three quarters of an hour to get it sorted out over the phone, by which time the tickets had dropped off the booking app, so I had to start again with the booking. Infuriating - particularly as the transaction was not remotely out of the ordinary.

Marydoll Sun 18-Jun-23 23:18:58

I find that if I am on holiday, I am often asked to use my pin no, rather than contact less.
I'm all for anything that helps prevent fraud.

Years ago someone tried to purchase porn videos in New York, with our account.
American Express spotted the fraud immediately, because my card was usually spent in Boden, White Stuff etc. 😉

NewNana2 Sun 18-Jun-23 23:20:52

I’m feeling annoyed think I need advice please. My son’s in-laws live in France. First indication is that we’re undermined and second rate compared to wife’s family with plans in place to spend every baby milestone with their family. Already first Father’s Day was celebrated in France. We’re kind and very generous and supportive but there’s a strong leaning towards her own.

Doodledog Sun 18-Jun-23 23:25:26

I think you should start a new thread, NewNana2. This one is about banking grin.

If you click on Forums, then Ask A Gran, then Start a New Thread you will be able to ask advice on a thread of your own.

Marydoll Sun 18-Jun-23 23:25:46

NewNana2

I’m feeling annoyed think I need advice please. My son’s in-laws live in France. First indication is that we’re undermined and second rate compared to wife’s family with plans in place to spend every baby milestone with their family. Already first Father’s Day was celebrated in France. We’re kind and very generous and supportive but there’s a strong leaning towards her own.

You need to start a new thread, NewNana and put your problem in the title.
I fear you won't get many responses on this thread about credit cards.
People will give lots of good advice, but just not here.

Grantanow Mon 19-Jun-23 11:33:17

It is all a faff but necessary to protect against fraud which is all too common.

nexus63 Mon 19-Jun-23 11:41:01

i seldom carry cash as i don't use a purse, i have a bag with about £15 pound coins, i was doing a shop in morrisons and went to swipe my card but it was not working, the young girl said she was sorry but they were having a problem with all the tills but kindly said she would keep my shopping while i went to the cash machine outside, problem was i could not remember my pin number, i had to explain it was the same number, several other people had to leave there shopping. my son never has cash or his card, he just swipes his phone, he wanted to set up my new phone that he got me but i said no thanks, it was bad enough that he set up photo recognition (i feel stupid having to put the phone up to see my face.) maybe i am just not cut out for all this tech.

Saggi Mon 19-Jun-23 12:59:49

Sorry …what the heck is a verification code and why haven’t I been asked to use one …🤷🏻‍♀️….I shop on line all the time!

Debbi58 Mon 19-Jun-23 13:24:45

It happens to me all the time, I can use contact less sometimes but not others. Also did a verification code to shop online . I'm with barclays and have 3 new cards in the last 2 years . Because my card details have been hacked and used fraudulent. Always me , never my hubbie

biglouis Mon 19-Jun-23 13:31:46

I buy almost everything online so I am very familiar with verification codes. Sometimes the requirement does not make sense. I pay a thousand dollars for something I bought in the USA and it goes straight through. But the same day a code will be required for a £50 routine shop at Tesco. Go figure.