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Oldnproud Thu 17-Aug-23 15:26:30

Imagine that a family you know very well was planning to move house, and after a long time searching, founds a 30 -40 year old property that suited them, offered the asking price and it was accepted. Then well past halfway through the process, you found out by pure chance that bad things have happened there in the past (domestic violence) which led to a suicide. Not inside, but in the garden.

Would you tell them what you had learned or not?

I chose not to say anything, but will add more later.

Fleurpepper Thu 17-Aug-23 19:41:58

No.

Nannarose Thu 17-Aug-23 22:00:03

Oldnproud

eazybee

Stay quiet, although you are clearly bursting to tell them, and what good would it do?

I'm not sure what gave you the idea that I am bursting to tell them. It's definitely not the case.

What is true that I have been bursting to discuss it with someone but without involving anyone I know in real life, which is exactly why I raised this on an anonymous forum.

That's what is useful about these forums. I have aked questions on here that I wouldn't want to discuss on real life.
You have also anwered my question about whether they would find out that you knew. I would definitely keep quiet, especially as you don't really know how reliable this 'total stranger' is.
I'd also say that just becaue they found no signs of attempted intrusion doesn't mean someone wasn't trying doors. They would have melted away once someone got up and started moving about the house.

sarahcyn Fri 18-Aug-23 11:22:15

Many people die in houses. Many are also born.
My daughter says we are not “allowed” to move house ever because she was born there 25 years ago!

undines Fri 18-Aug-23 11:29:12

Personally I would tell them. I believe in the spirit world and I also believe that great unhappiness can leave an 'imprint.' They are experiencing things (as I have) and these manifestations can be sorted. As a Wiccan High Priestess I would find someone who was known for sorting out such matters, if I felt I could not do this myself. For instance there may be a local dowsing group in which someone specialises in house clearance. The group to which I belong has several expert dowsers who are also engineers and scientists, so please don't assume it's all what some contemptuously refer to as 'woo-woo'. These things are real, they cause distress, they can be fixed. If there is a poor soul who is earthbound, they deserve release. (I would certainly not call any Christian priest!)

Ailidh Fri 18-Aug-23 11:32:16

I wouldn't have told them before, and I still wouldn't now.

If the noises happen again, I would suggest they ask for a crime reduction officer to visit and potentially give advice about window and door security.

If that didn't help, then I would suggest they ask the local vicar to call round to bless the house.

greenlady102 Fri 18-Aug-23 11:38:55

Oldnproud

Theexwife

Now that has happened and if they believe in ghosts would they be annoyed with you that you hadn’t said before they bought it?

I honestly don't know. Not that they believed in ghosts before this, but the one who told me what happened in the night was very shaken, while the other slept through it, as did the other occupants of the house.

By the way, they did get out of bed to investigate it, thinking that their house guests were responsible for the noises, but they were all fast asleep and there was no sign of any would-be intruders outside.

The only person who could drop me in it is the one who told me what had happened in the house /garden, but as it was a very unusual and random series of events that led to my meeting and finding this out from this previously total stranger, I am hopeful that it will never be suspected that I knew.

so one person ( a stranger) told you? Do you have any corroboration?

Greenfinch Fri 18-Aug-23 11:42:12

As a child we lived in Army quarters for a time. Before we moved in a neighbour told us that a young child had died in the house in tragic circumstances (I think her nightie caught fire by an open fireplace). The house was allocated to us so we had no say in the matter and weren’t upset except for feeling sorry for the child. Anyway nothing untoward ever happened and if anything it had a good lived-in feel about it.

NannyDaft Fri 18-Aug-23 11:43:26

Stay quiet !

Mallin Fri 18-Aug-23 11:44:55

Doesn’t the law state all violence that occurred must be admitted?
Anyway, who cares.
Just think of pensioners bungalows.
Tenancy of these have waiting lists but the only way most new tenancies come about is after the death of the original tenants.

25Avalon Fri 18-Aug-23 11:47:58

I think some people are more prone to pick up what I would call unhappy vibes than others. My mil moved to a house which fil spent a lot of money and time having done up to a high standard. Mil however was very unhappy there and one room was very cold. When she went into this room she felt very depressed and wanted to cry. She discovered from a neighbour a person who lived there had committed suicide.It got so bad they sold the house and moved out.

I think I would wait and see what if anything happens next in this case. It could have been an attempted burglary. If there are other occurrences you could ask the family if they have made any inquiries as to past history of the house as a starting point. If you found out others must know.

ReggieLouise Fri 18-Aug-23 11:48:11

I’ve heard burning sage can help ‘cleanse’ a house, or remove bad energy - something like that. Could be an option if they’re not religious.

Beautyandthebeast Fri 18-Aug-23 11:48:57

I would keep that to yourself x

Dee1012 Fri 18-Aug-23 11:56:36

A friend of a work colleague bought a property in my home town which had been the scene of a well known murder - they lived there quite happily I believe although several people who visited would talk of feeling unsettled.
I do wonder though if that feeling was simply due to the notoriety of the case.

M0nica Fri 18-Aug-23 12:01:56

Less said the better. If they find out, do not admit you ever knew.

We are confirmed old house dwellers. our current home is 550 years old, previous houses have been 100 years old or more. Who knows what terrible things have happened in the past in these houses we have lived in, especially our current home with its very long past. We do not believe in ghosts, and if there are any here they have kept very quiet.

Oldnproud Fri 18-Aug-23 12:05:50

greenlady102

Oldnproud

Theexwife

Now that has happened and if they believe in ghosts would they be annoyed with you that you hadn’t said before they bought it?

I honestly don't know. Not that they believed in ghosts before this, but the one who told me what happened in the night was very shaken, while the other slept through it, as did the other occupants of the house.

By the way, they did get out of bed to investigate it, thinking that their house guests were responsible for the noises, but they were all fast asleep and there was no sign of any would-be intruders outside.

The only person who could drop me in it is the one who told me what had happened in the house /garden, but as it was a very unusual and random series of events that led to my meeting and finding this out from this previously total stranger, I am hopeful that it will never be suspected that I knew.

so one person ( a stranger) told you? Do you have any corroboration?

The person who told me has lived extremely close to the house almost since it was first built.
I only have their word for it, but I have no reason to disbelieve them.

sazz1 Fri 18-Aug-23 12:11:24

Most houses of that age and older have had someone die there. A lot of people want to die at home with their family.
As for houses being haunted the two times I considered it had logical explanations. One was a leak from the tank in the loft dripping slowly onto a carrier bag in my wardrobe. The other was a rat in my kitchen cupboard unfortunately, and he ate a whole packet of cereal before we caught him.

Bella23 Fri 18-Aug-23 12:21:55

I would tell them. We have a property in our village that has changed hands at least 5 times in 10 years. A chap did commit suicide in it and it had affected everyone who has lived there.
The last couple just before Easter lasted two weeks. Someone refused to go back in it on New Years Eve and stayed with neighbours until the family could come for them.
I don't believe in ghosts but I do think if you know something awful has happened you can gradually build it up in your mind. They joked with me about it but during Covid their imagination ran riot . I think like others if you live in an old house people are bound to have died in it and it does really depend on your own take on things. Better to give back word if you feel it will affect you, than find out later.Better to be told as well.

Philippa111 Fri 18-Aug-23 12:25:28

If they can get out of the buying contract with no penalties I might tell them otherwise I wouldn’t because what can they do now? Older houses have histories of all kinds. I doubt there is an older property where there is no negative history of some sort.

Germanshepherdsmum Fri 18-Aug-23 12:32:30

I didn’t get the impression they have exchanged contracts yet, in which case they can pull out with no penalty other than their own wasted costs.

Cossy Fri 18-Aug-23 12:41:29

Nope Wouldn’t mention it, the neighbours are bound to tell them anyhow and tbh what different does it make ??

fluttERBY123 Fri 18-Aug-23 12:41:54

There is no point in telling them now that you knew something before they moved in. It would serve only to annoy them. What you could do is point them in direction of somewhere they might get help with the problem they seem to have now. Lots of suggestions about this from the grans above.

Oldnproud Fri 18-Aug-23 12:42:13

Germanshepherdsmum

I didn’t get the impression they have exchanged contracts yet, in which case they can pull out with no penalty other than their own wasted costs.

Sorry if I wasn't clear, but the exchange and moving in have taken place, so there is no going back now.

Delila Fri 18-Aug-23 12:44:02

Don’t mention it, and forget it yourself, it’s in the past. It has no relevance to the present, or the future.
Hopefully the family will move in and start filling it with their own happy vibes.

Oldnproud Fri 18-Aug-23 12:44:28

Oldnproud

Germanshepherdsmum

I didn’t get the impression they have exchanged contracts yet, in which case they can pull out with no penalty other than their own wasted costs.

Sorry if I wasn't clear, but the exchange and moving in have taken place, so there is no going back now.

So you can imagine how I felt yesterday when told 'I think we have a ghost'!

BlueBelle Fri 18-Aug-23 12:48:23

The thing is, 99% of us have no IDEA what has happened in their homes prior to them being there

A lot of us living in old houses or even not so old but houses that others have lived in will be living with bad and good happenings, rows, fights, deaths, both natural murders and suicides even those living in new builds have no idea who was killed, injured, murdered, or died on the ground their house was built on so it’s absolutely pointless to be stressing over it
Or worse still consider stressing others about it